[FirstClassSkeptic]

I believe China is a big coastal Potemkin, behind the skyscrapers and fake GDP, Beijing controls nothing, no uniform language, no power in rural areas, no long history, it's a new invented state, previous colony of all Europe, of Japan, a mosaic of cultures and languages that appears on the maps as China,

Do you believe that there are 1.3 billion people there?

I can see where exaggerating the population of China might be an investment scam. I've read several articles about the vast, untapped market of 1.3 billion consumers. It lures people and companies in to make investments.

[ewing2001]

i always loved this german conspiracy theory, that south korea might not exist at all and is just a KGB/CIA/BND- big tv|FILM studio, developed in the 70s, then acting up within an upper section of south korea -even allow jamesbond movies over there ; even their recent soccer team must have been some secretive elite from sk. ; since *then i also believed that china has only a few ten thousand people over there, some of them living in skyscrapers, the rest are EUROZONE-gang/banksters ; -) wonder how the ID-travel system works over there, could never ask my chinese friends yet .
((They're advanced in the NFC chip system though, maybe hiTech from EUROZONE as well, i tried to put some stocks at zecco on all this, but there was no American depositary receipt (ADR) -application ; ))

Mao maybe'ish was an actor, some russian nu|Chronologists at http://upravlenie.ucoz.ru *do further believe, he was acted up by Konrad Adenauer or vice versa. I was banned for this quote from simonshack at sepClues, they don't like the history-"shrinking" idea *that much ;

i'm not a big fan of the doubleganger|dupe|overSIM|[time machine'ing -crossover ideas either], but it's always fun to think about the 1actor"2 spots-idea



Heuss



Mao

...how often did they travel? What is really a meta-insider ? ;

[[ps : i visualized my own idea of beginning of humans now at http://upravlenie.ucoz.ru/forum/2-586-1#20610 ; also send some romanian newChronologists the link of http://1649beginningofhumanz.tumblr.com/ ; to get some feedback ; i don't have the email of Garry Kimovich Kasparov yet ; i also still try to get sponsors for a cartoon version of my book, where i philosophically tried to seperate author from text .. ]]

[Sorensen731]

I read reports of companies loosing money after moving to China. They are lured, lied to move to China.
It's not economics, it's politics. They want to weaken Europe by destroying it's industrial capabilities.

You are right, they have to sell it someway.

There are a lot of factors to take into account. What is lacking is good serious census data.
I blame maps. Mercator and rectangular maps are worthless and give bad impressions, they distort real sizes, maps should be polar centric, like the UN flag.

I look at Mongolia, Russia, and all *stan republics and then I look at Chinese population.
Japan too, rich, very rich and industrious, huge coast, and only 180, move with your mind Japan into the Coast of China, and give some consideration for the continental land behind, you won't get 1300 million. Check the population of Tibet and inner Muslim regions of China, little population.

Who really cares for the number? Does it matter? No. It's symbolic.

It gives the impression that Europe time is out. White race rules no longer. Chinese are the future, the new rulers. Why?
The last step before Jewish absolute rule in broad daylight.
First Europe is weakened, then, it learns to obey foreign powers, China for example, and after they are tamed and obedient, they can "discover" the real rulers, the Jews.
The number is psychological, to get into our heads we are small, too little, nothing against the massive Chinese.

And in spite of the 1.3 billion... They already used all the Chinese potential and are moving to Vietnam and others! Why would they if they had a billion waiting in the towns? Maybe this huge number of slaves in reserve doesn't exist at all.

[FirstClassSkeptic]

I read reports of companies loosing money after moving to China. They are lured, lied to move to China.
It's not economics, it's politics. They want to weaken Europe by destroying it's industrial capabilities.

You are right, they have to sell it someway.

China appears to me to be basically a real estate scam.

And I've noticed what you mention: When they show pictures of internal China, it looks like almost no one lives there. Or even could. Same thing with pictures of black Africa.

I remember this old Star Trek episode. Star Trek was jewish, by the way. In the one episode, they were on a planet where no one died, and they wanted people to die, because the planet was so crowded.

In the episode, they showed this room inside. And there was a window. You could see people pushing and crowding their way past each other, and past the window. It gave the illusion that the planet was crowded.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdsbuJfMpr0

[rerevisionist]

Brilliant stuff here. At the moment I'm agnostic - I genuinely don't know. They also go on about India being an 'economic superpower' yet of course for most people it's painfully poor.

(I love the south Korea as a myth idea. Maps of British towns - black and white outline maps with an index to all the streets - contain small, deliberately made-up sections of road, so that anyone who plagiarises the map can be detected. Just as phonebooks have some false names for the same reason. Having fake bits of the world map, or borders in the wrong place, strikes me as possible - but with things like Google the aerial views would have to match).

Not very impostant, but that Star Trek episode FCS mentions strikes me as being anti-Catholic - that palnet's inhabitants love life etc, wouldn't think of controlling their population.

While playing that Startrek clip, I noticed John Lennon saying over-population is a myth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Emi1wf1q6os

[ewing2001]

..someone said at sometime : there's no hope, there are only "opportunities". I will study more "gappeees" in the illogical gap of lacking process and documentation of music instruments ; my alltime fave 'gappee', also because i mostly am a djee ; i also read enuff in russian and romanian lately but it is sum nice development of all this and very exciting and entertaining as well..

maybe there is sum opportunity for 'enlightmentno.3' in the zukunft , i wont switch my writing style ; takin' off ;


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so called "modern castanets" ;-

[FirstClassSkeptic]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSpUWt_d ... re=related

It just occurred to me that this over population deal is the same sort of thing as the global warming is going to kill us thing, and the nuclear weapons are going to kill us thing, and global pollution is going to kill us thing. It's in the same sort of scary, we're all going to die, scenario.

I knew a guy from Maryland, and he went off to Texas, and married some mexican woman. And he went down into Mexico where she came from. And he described the people as living in a village, and all worked the crops together, and shared them together. So, sort of a commune. But he said there were places there in mexico where no man had set foot. That's not the picture you get of Mexico. But if that's the case, why are mestizos crowding into the USA, if there's so much room in Mexico?

[rerevisionist]

Interesting ... now you mention it, FCS, possibly the behind-the-scenes planners have themselves been misled.

In 2000, the 'Labour' Party had a Jew, Jack Straw, in power, and with a handful of others they decided (without democratic mandate) to get as much coloured immigration as possible into Britain. Under the Official Secrets Act, local councillors were forbidden to discuss the Joint Tenancy Agreement - these incomers were to be housed in modern, up-to-date housing, secretly, at taxpayers' expense. The story only partly emerged some years later - one of the reasons given was to 'rub the public's noses in it' which clearly proves hostile intent.



However, I'm not concerned here so much with the corruption of politics by Jews. The point is - maybe the population figures were wrong. The EU's ['European Union] current policy is to import 50 million black Africans into Europe in the next few decades, though the Jewish media of course doesn't report this. I just wonder whether someone got the figures wrong, and there were fewer than they thought to import? Is that possible?

[FirstClassSkeptic]

I just wonder whether someone got the figures wrong, and there were fewer than they thought to import? Is that possible?[/b]

The problem for them is that White people know how to farm, and if some Whites found out about some farm-able land for the taking, they might go there and try to take it. And if a bunch of Whites invaded some place, like Sudan, Congo, Ghana, in search of farmland, it would be the historically White nations, like USA, Britain, France, who would send troops to stop the Whites from doing that.

The Sudan, Congo, Ghana are made out to be respectable nations. Like, what was posted earlier about China, they are a facade. They would be said to be invading a "sovereign nation", when really, it's just a piece of real estate, with some leader, propped up by those same White nations which would send troops. What I think is that, if enough rednecks, or football fans, from the USA or Britain, got together and went to the Sudan or the Congo, they would whip ass all over the place. Blacks have never figured out the rudiments of aiming a rifle. So there has to be a system set up so that Whites keep other Whites in check, or else the Whites will take over the earth.

Which makes me think of Adolf Hitler, and one of the questions I always have about him. If he wanted libensrum for the Germans, why the hell did he try to take it from other White people? Why didn't he go down into black Africa, or over into South America, or Asia?

And so, one of the reasons I think population is exaggerated is to discourage initiative taking Whites from going there.

One of the things that gets me is how the media, and textbooks, will usually talk about a place as being poor, rather than the people. Like Haiti. "Haiti is poor." is an incorrect statement. "Haiti is full of niggers." is factually correct, but politically incorrect.

4800 White owned farms proved that Rhodesia could raise sufficient food for itself, and have much left over to export. Now with the Whites mostly gone, Zimbabwe is starving. So the problem isn't that Zimbabwe is poor; the problem is Zimbabwe is full of niggers.

So what happens to Britain when it gets filled with black people from the Sudan, Congo, Zimbabwe, South Africa? Well, it's bound to become like those places. Miami, Florida is starting to resemble Haiti. And Los Angeles resembles Mexico.

[Sorensen731]

Here I remember the Truman Show, how they scare him into staying in his controlled city.
Ok, now we can go to other controlled cities by plane!

How can they manipulate us if we live on our own? Away from their influence and independent.
We were told feudalism was evil and modern nations freed the serfs! Haha
I wonder how that psyop was done...

[Sorensen731]

About the Chinese and the Chinese Wall.

http://breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic ... 0#%2027945

Scroll to: "The Great Wall of China" (short story) by Franz Kafka

Checkmate. (That thread is very good by the way)

[FirstClassSkeptic]

Interesting stuff about China. One question I always ask is; If the Chinese were so inventive in the past, why are they so devoid of creativity today?

Another thing that has been reported, in order to show that China is an up and coming superpower, is traffic jams. Remember the big traffic jams they were having about a year ago?