[Sorensen731]

Hi, welcome.

Interesting topic, I too read about it time ago.

Now I considered it's in the middle of a big religious-political war about our origins and the past. Too much politics, consciously or not.

I think part of it is fraud, but part of it hides a terrible picture. Many ancient tales and stories talk of ugly humanoid creatures, dwarfs,trolls, monsters.
Maybe many were hunted down and disappear as civilization colonized all the Earth.
There is a curious book, Theozoology by Lanz von Liebenfels,1904 that talks exactly about this, with proofs.
http://www.american-buddha.com/cult.theozoology.htm

They could have been hunted down for safety and food. But why couldn't humans and dinosaurs live together?
And, where the hell comes the 65 million years figure? Who was the expert who calculated it?
I go for a short view of history, more than Fomenko, Stepanenko of livehistory.ru if you know him, or Chistopher Pfister of dillum.ch, with dualist-gnostic spirit, as a downfall of the gods losing abilities and power, by race mixing.
Have you read Nicolai Levashov or genocid.net ?

I think the big dinosaurs could have been made up or exaggerated. But another point is the human giants, there are many proofs of big human skeletons that is censored. Dinosaurs are not a threat to the system. Research into our origins is, specially if you use the race word!

Once an official view is declared in science, it's very hard to change. With official history (in science we change everything, not with romans or greeks!) or with Prehistory. Dates seem to be written into stone and sacred.
With Jesus you can debate everything.. but the 2000 years ago theory. That is sacred.

[ewing2001]

More Hyper-REVisionist stuff after ww2

also from my book "occupyBeyonce", which didnt make many copies yet, though 280+ pre-readers ;



it refers to radar|laser-tech history: had their only evolutionairy highlight in electronic music, television on cellfones and tubeFakery for fakeNuclear Medicine [incl. fakeMRI, MRA and catScans = silly b+w brain archive photos with alleged links {the bloodVessel-blur"} to so called *brain attack research* (humans naturally only die of !heart attacks!, which implies by *that speculation, that US|German|Brit-paceMaker industry is in on it too)] and related bioFarma post45++nazeee-stuF : basically microwave amplifier [better : Musical instrument (audio) amplifiers] were only good for lasers incl. military chemical lasers {jena etc...; also maybe'ish for skin 'cosmetics')

"...

1953
Charles Hard Townes (member of Bell Telephone Laboratories; 1933 to 1947)
plus graduate students James P. Gordon and Herbert J. Zeiger are producing the first microwave amplifier,
a device operating on similar principles to the laser.
This has led to the construction of oscillators and amplifiers based on the maser–laser principle.
.. ((why did Jean Michel Jarre, buddy of 'black color'-fetishist Pierre Soulages, use sooo many lasers ? )[

1956
Baxter International introduces the first functioning artificial kidney.


1958
John Lykoudis, a general practitioner in Greece, started treating patients for peptic ulcer disease with antibiotics, long before it was commonly recognized that bacteria were a dominant cause for the disease [[

1960
General Electric's pacemakers are developed in Corporate Research & Development in Schenectady.
.. ((of course GE's hisTory of their '62+'ish' computer|operating|systemOS "GECOS" is much more interesting))


1970s
Tretinoin (acid form of vitamin A) was found effective for acne, sold by Roche (Basel, Switzerland).
.. ((…and Sulfur ? )[

1972
Beecham launched Amoxil (amoxicillin), which went on to become one of the most widely prescribed antibiotics.
..(Beecham is now part of GlaxoSmithKline London, UK ; …'skippin' here Robert Koch plus Selman Abraham Waksman/Rutgers/Dutch Reformed Church, "the plague" and never-ending annoying'ish *larouche'ish'ish-dribbl*-'misclusions' [[

1983
GE Medical started investing heavily in Magnetic Resonance Imaging (MR) technology.
.. ((they called it once 'nuclear medicine'


1998
Celera Corporation is established by PE Corporation (later renamed to Applera),
with Dr. J. Craig Venter from The Institute for Genomic Research.
The company becomes also known for 'allegedly' finishing up the sequencing of the human genome.
...((…and this 'kuteTheory', notsoKute "…what is if they **really did not find the humanGenome ?;))[[[-[


1998
Polish physicist Robert Smolanczuk published calculations that it might be possible to make ununoctium by fusing lead [german: blei] with krypton under carefully controlled conditions.
Krypton, like the other noble gases, can be used in lighting and photography.
Noble gases are a group of chemical elements with very similar properties:
odorless, colorless, monatomic gases, with very low chemical reactivity.
The six noble gases that occur naturally are
helium (atomic number 2), neon, argon, krypton, xenon , and radon.

1999
Hoechst AG becomes Aventis Deutschland after its merger with France's Rhône-Poulenc S.A.

…and for 'sum reasons' i did here another "break" from writing ; ..."

[http: //tinyURL.com/occupybeyonce ]

[rerevisionist]

ewoing, I'm not sure what to make of your material.

However - consider monatomic helium. When this is cooled, it turns liquid; when it's cooled even more it bocomes solid -- BUT helium is a noble gas. So the solid phase of helium is separate atom. This means 'superfluid helium' is a powder - probably the finst powder in the universe. This is why objects appear to float on it, and why it appears to have other strange properties.

[ewing2001]

...well my book, in some non-linear form tries also to establish, that helium was some kind of evolutionairy *highlight within the list of established elements, then *sabotaged* with false-flags around Hindenburg|Zeppelin Company (Luftschiffbau Zeppelin GmbH) and the downfall of Goodyear Aerospace, then sold to Loral Corporation, yet another post ww2-developer of "Radar", to pave the way for the nuclear scam with his sisterOP, "radio activity"|cancer, linked to Becherel and bioFarma ;

actually, some more experienced physicists should also investigate the so called "minor importance" of helium regarding the displacement of fuel and oxidizers in storage tanks of rockets incl. Saturn V (*'67-73).

How can *that process be described as "minor" ? Most likely this is some downgrading definition, to introduce another cover-up for the inconsistencies plus logical and mathematical dead|ends within so called space travel history.
It's fascinating that the forum of http://upravlenie.ucoz.ru even questions the complete Gagarin mission ;

btw, here is some kind of complete list of all post'45+-nukelies- corporates, which always can be traced back to SIEMENS, Framatome/AREVA, Alstom and the Mitsui family Group zaibatsu [* his|torically "founded" by Mitsui Takatoshi (1622–1694)], immediately after ww2 turning into Toshiba, which also took over Westinghouse : http://justpaste.it/nukedukes2011 ;

[rerevisionist]

There's a problem of censorship in Germany, of course, and possibly you are forced to be less open than you'd like.

[1] I don't see your point about helium. It's believed to be a very light gas, and also very unreactive - so it's rare, because in the free state it tends to rise in the atmosphere and presumably drift off into space. Superfluid helium has a special place in physics, as a sort of mystery phenomenon, but in my view it's a simple misinterpretation, and nothing to do with industrial applications of helium.

[2] You link to a list of companies dealing in nuclear energy - if it exists!, and its decommissioning, and uranium, but also some related topics, like boilers and turbines, though you don't list e.g. transmission lines, cables, etc. Non-nuclear power gets a look-in too, and Russian gas. No offence, but there must be thousands of companies you haven't listed, and governmental departments and organisations, and secret outfits too. However, I appreciate that simply setting out facts about companies' activities can sometimes suggest fruitful lines of thought.

[3] We do seem to be seeing more general overview revisionisms emerging:---

*** The whole of nuclear physics from about 1900-1950 is suspect, as you say: radioactivity was certainly part of the H bomb scare, designed originally to make war on Stalin 'unthinkable', probably for the benefit of the Jewish-controlled science establishment there.
---------Making up (i.e. the fantasy of) the H-bomb H-bomb-myth-and-its-purpose.html

*** The criticisms of NASA are of course extending out: their stuff is well-established as fake, and it's an obvious deduction that Russian and Chinese attempts were fake, too. How much of missile, space station and satellite technology was fake is another issue: my best guess is that smallish objects have been got up there, but not biggish ones - including the 'Hubble telescope'.
---------Doubts about space travel and payloads

*** At long last there is systematic examination of 'Jews' (Khazars, generally) and their practices. They appear to be almost the only group exempted from criticism, and fortunately this is changing. (I'm not saying it's unique - honest criticisms of the military, of Islam, of the EU, were rare, but not as rare as commentary on Jews.
---------Need for study of Jews

[voerioc]

I also don't understand what is the point here. It's quite incomprehensible.

[rerevisionist]

voerioc - one of his points is that, in spite of wars, technology was identical in many countries - e.g. TV broadcasting standards. It's a similar idea to e.g. American-owned factories in Germany not being bombed, German rocket scientists being taken to the USA, and Japanese companies being supplied with materials by the USA before WW2.

At least, I think that's one of his points. Maybe he's trying to increase his books sales, though.

[ewing2001]

yep, thx ;

well i once wrote this, before i stopped doing politics 2, 3 yearz ago : http://friendfeed.com/ewing2001/1e967fb ... r-oilspill ;

[FirstClassSkeptic]

Eisenhower's Farewell Address (1961)

Our military organization today bears little relation to that known by any of my predecessors in peace time, or indeed by the fighting men of World War II or Korea.

Until the latest of our world conflicts, the United States had no armaments industry. American makers of plowshares could, with time and as required, make swords as well. But now we can no longer risk emergency improvisation of national defense; we have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions. Added to this, three and a half million men and women are directly engaged in the defense establishment. We annually spend on military security more than the net income of all United State corporations.

This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence-economic, political, even spiritual-is felt in every city, every state house, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society.

In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.

Akin to, and largely responsible for the sweeping changes in our industrial-military posture, has been the technological revolution during recent decades.

In this revolution, research has become central; it also becomes more formalized, complex, and costly. A steadily increasing share is conducted for, by, or at the direction of, the Federal government.

Today, the solitary inventor, tinkering in his shop, has been over shadowed by task forces of scientists in laboratories and testing fields. In the same fashion, the free university, historically the fountainhead of free ideas and scientific discovery, has experienced a revolution in the conduct of research. Partly because of the huge costs involved, a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity. For every old blackboard there are now hundreds of new electronic computers.

The prospect of domination of the nation's scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present and is gravely to be regarded.

Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite.

It is the task of statesmanship to mold, to balance, and to integrate these and other forces, new and old, within the principles of our democratic system-ever aiming toward the supreme goals of our free society.

http://www.ourdocuments.gov/doc.php?fla ... transcript

[ewing2001]

btw, i would find it awesome, if nukelies.com comes to nyc and holds a public video evidence|session ;
any plannings or ideas for thst ?

i would djay for this ; regards ;

[ewing2001]

excerpt from my book "occupyBeyoncé" :

[also *now reposted at http://upravlenie.ucoz.ru/forum/2-118-4#19367 ] aka Nico Haupt |\\_

"...Now during *1876, King Léopold II of the Belgians [since 1830's "Belgian Revolution" this country is theoretically still a front for Napoleon|France] organized the International African Association, which helped him to conquer africa and establish the so called "Congo Free State", later turning into Belgian Congo (Belgisch-Kongo ; 1908–1960), now Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC).

However it was *also the same *Belgisch-Kongo, which officially provided the *Manhattan Project with "enough ingredients" of Uranium-238, to finalize WW2 ;

But oddly "Belgisch Congo" was *already mentioned* in "Einstein/Szilard's 1939 letter" to Roosevelt as "most important source of uranium", written in the office of Alexander Sachs, at Lehmann Brother's bank.
More historical coincidence, prior knowledge on the outcome of WW2 [still 6|six years to go!] or logical continuation of a major historical hoax ?

Historical_question:
Where also did this indirect french-[belgium]-american friendship suddenly come from?

Why is it that Brussels, the capitol of Belgium, became *then one of the most significant political cities of the world? Co-founder of the European Union, hosting the NATO headquarters,
co-founder of the European Atomic Energy Community (EAEC or Euratom ; *1957).



[sic: atomium meets nukelies.com cover-up criminal No.1 ]

Why also is it that facts around the nazi's so called "VierteReich", code-named 'Odessa' [a secretive SS [Schutzstaffel) organization), which describe the "Argentinean connection" linking Nazis with the government of Juan Perón, had been classified for so long and also include the Strasbourg Conference of August 1944,
where apparently the **european union/later on EUROZONE** had already been planned ?
((Strasbourg actually became the official seat of the European Parliament))

the 'oldschool_revisionism_question' :
Why [furthermore] so many prominent nazis had been able to "escape" *in time at the end of WW2, including Adolf Eichmann (SS Obersturmführer), Josef Mengele (camp doctor at Auschwitz), Franz Stangl (commandant of Treblinka), Eduard Roschmann (commandant of Riga Ghetto), and Josef Schwammberger (SS-Oberscharführer, Przemysl)?
Why is the history of the american CIA/OSS *directly linked to the Nazis as well?
And where|how was the 'radar' involved in all this ?

the 'nuSchool_conspiracy_hunter_quest'ion':
"…and what about recent bizarre theories (2007+-),
that actually pro-EUROZONE german chancellor Angela Merkel is the alleged "sperm-daughter" of Adolf Hitler ?.." ;

Too much to swallow? Maybe some music in between ;

^^^^
Festland - Welt Verbrennt (Manuel Tur's Ashen City Mix)
http://soundcloud.com/mild-pitch/festla ... nnt-manuel
|\\_

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Chapter 11
Post WW2-developments of post-historical media-'manipulation'-possibilities
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[rerevisionist]

@Nico Haupt - Interesting material. The Belgian Congo is notorious as the scene of mass deaths and atrocities - or, rather, it would be notorious if it had any publicity.

May I ask if your book solves any of these numerous problems you're drawing to our attention? Just curious!