[rerevisionist]

It's clear that the Trinity test was a fake, and there were no atom bombs over Japan in 1945. It's also clear that the USSR was dominated by Jews at first, and that its industry was installed secretly by western companies using something like slave labour. The official view was, and is, that the Second World War in the Pacific was ended by atom bombs. Our view is that the myth of these bombs was made up partly to make money for Jews in the Manhattan Project, to be continued after the war; and partly to keep Stalin out of some Japanese islands. And partly to keep Stalin out of Europe, though this motive would not have been Jewish, but the other allies. (And it may have been simply because Russia had been devastated by war, so that further war by Stalin might provoke terminal collapse of the 'USSR'). At any rate it suggests Stalin believed the story.

We suggest here the H bomb was made up with the deliberate intention, all along, to fake leaks of information to the USSR, so that they would be believed to have H bombs and thus not be threatened. This is consistent with secret cliques of Jews controlling, not just financial and propaganda, but also 'nuclear' policy in both countries.

The first US H bomb was supposed to have been in 1952, 'Ivy Mike', rigged up by Edward Teller, who however absented himself from the supposed trial. I'd guess this was in the event it was challenged: he could simply say he was never there, and had been misled. Stalin presumably believed in this event. If so, he'd want his own H bomb. Possibly he made plans to check it himself, or get competent people to measure and record it; if so, there was a danger that the secret would get out. If Stalin thought the US atom and H-bombs were real, and the physicists in the USSR incompetent, the physicists would be in trouble. So I suggest there may be a link with Stalin's death in March 1953. Stalin's death has often been speculated to be a murder, but the motive of H bomb pretence is of course not yet generally considered. Note that the USSR H-bomb was supposed to have been August 1953, i.e. after Stalin's death. There seems to be doubt over Stalin's date of death - so a Henry VII style sequence of events may have taken place, with orders being attributed to Stalin, after his death, which, among other things, consolidated the physicists' position.
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An interesting book, which I recommend on the whole, is Franz Johann Irsigler's Who Makes Our Money? Irsigler was (it seems) born in 1900, a Catholic who lived in France - I'd guess in the area claimed by both France and Germany - who migrated to South Africa, where he worked in neurology and the brain. This book has eighteen chapters, but it has to be said that the layout and logical structure is weak - some of the chapters are in effect book reviews, other switch between topics; and the bibliographical information is scattered and not very good. Some of the chapters seem to have been published in newspapers and journals; thier dates are uncertain, and the first publication date of the collection is uncertain - 1980 or before. I believe it's been republished in hard copy form recently - I'd hope with improved titles, subheadings, table of contents, and indexing.

Irsigler has chapters on Roosevelt, Churchill, the CIA, the press, and paper money - and on the American Revolution (Who Provoked the American War of Independence?, and Who Plotted World War I, Prolonged it by Two Years, and Created Danzig and the Polish Corridor, and Who Plotted World War II ..., and for example Eisenhower, 'friend of Bernard Baruch ... promoted over 150 others ... without battle experience'.

Anyway Irsigler speculates on Stalin's death; he attributes it to Stalin deciding not to destroy Germany in accordance with the Morgenthau Plan - he was supposed to have said "there will always be a Germany'. The Jews in the USSR 'must have been furious' as they wanted Germany destroyed. I'm suggesting another motive here, namely to ensure Stalin never found out the atom bomb was fake.

['Our' view is a bit presumptious of me - I just mean it seems to have emerged as a consensus]

[rerevisionist]

http://barnesreview.org/pdf/TBR2011-no6-4-10.pdf

I've just noticed the Barnes Review has a new article, by Daniel W Michaels, dated Nov-Dec 2011, on the deaths of Stalin and Beria. The article takes into account the dollar and Bretton Woods, and discusses whether 'western intelligence' was implicated. It's based on books by Yuri Mukhin and Arsen Martirosyan, the latter material being online.

Interestingly the author is entirely non-sceptical about nuclear weapons. And the piece doesn't make the obvious point that 'western intelligence' may be a synonym for Jewish involvement. Interesting to see the infighting around Stalin (who - it's claimed - ordered an investigation into Hitler's attacks and why the USSR was relatively unprepared). However, the piece looks uncomfortably like pro-Jewish propaganda.

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Note: 'Stalinists' and 'Troskyists'. One view is that Trotsky was expected, by a combination of murder and thuggery against the 'bourgeoisie' (codeword for Russian intellectuals and teachers etc), with exploitation by foreign capital and in effect slave labour, to get Russia under complete Jewish control. Stalin interrupted this process (in some manner which seems to conflict with the Jewish power model). So Hitler was funded by Jews, to take back control of the USSR for Jews, by ousting Stalin. Sounds far fetched to me.

[rerevisionist]

Reminder about Stalin and the USSR - taken from nomina-obscura.livejournal.com which is a Russian blog

This is a Google translation of 'ihistorian', with commentary added by 'Friend of the People'; 'Friend of the People' doesn't know, or hides, the fact that the 'Holocaust is a fake, so I can't vouch for the general accuracy---

ihistorian (who wrote it, that the famine in the Volga region was organized by the thugs and saboteurs, that a dead their families in spite of Soviet power) has compiled a list of four major victories of Stalin. I liked the list, I did a little otkommentiruyu.

1. Industrializatsiya - translates to "collect all that is in the country, up to cultural values, and sell to the West. With the money hire hundreds of American engineers, buy American plant designs and equipment with American machinery, gathered here on the site, mainly by convicts. The result is a rigid, incapable of change and modernization, the frozen structure of the industry (Oh, and the industry is not based on one year?) giperurbanizatsiyu (when a square meter of housing in working-class and working on the streets of urban rivers flow shit, LITERALLY "Sewer mute") and too strong outflow of workers from the village, becoming one of the factors of Stalin's famine. The bonus track is enhanced industrialization of the borderlands, as part of their transformation into independent states (which will leave the 91st - thank you, dear, industrialized!).

2.Agrarnaya reform ("collectivization") - translated as "people attach to the land and drive them insane fascist administrative structure, where they work for does not even pay the money, paying workdays and workday cashing local authorities, giving them the products and for supplies at their local course. In essence, creating the classic slave system, slave labor when the results do not belong to him, and with the help of her great peasant masses pumping means to giperindustrializatsiyu. Side effects: fever, chills, dizziness, mass starvation of millions of victims, cannibalism, Russia's transition from an exporter of grain importers that have prevailed up to the collapse of the Soviet Union, even with shortages of basic food needs. Along the way, was made a social revolution - destroy the "kulaks", a wealthy rural class, which served as a support agricultural economy and a breeding ground for the emergence of capitalists. " Bonus track - the incredible success of Hitler in the first year of the Second World War were due to, among other things, the rumors of imminent abolition of collective farms.

3.Kulturnaya revolution - translated as "physical destruction or expulsion from the country of the vast majority of Russian intellectual layer, replacement of the nascent Russian popular culture (growing from the nobility of the soil), the worker-peasant mucus. Natural process - the" city village of civilization "set on its head, forcing the city to go bow legs in the village, near the village to seek the truth. Complete degeneration of the scientific and cultural life (not least due to the replacement of Russian scientists and non-Russian cultural figures, mostly Jews, immediately razvedshimi most terrible nepotism, clearly affects the quality of both cultural and intellectual products), blurring and distortion of the Russian cultural codes as the basic unit of the Soviet identity identity of the lower social classes, preferably - with a "bunch of blood." powerful avant-garde impulse released by the Revolution, was completely crushed just in the early Stalin.

4.Pobeda in World War II and the establishment of a nuclear shield - Victory in World War II the Soviet state - no doubt the Russian people - no. The Soviet concept of the Second World is based on the stories that the Germans all want to kill and eat, it was about the plan, the plan has not been seen, but there were notes, Nazi official, notes, granted, received two years and was released in the courtroom. What a surprise! When a sinister plan to exclude (even if it was, it is only a plan, not the approved document, then see the famous movie about the program "United Russia" of 2001 by, uh-huh), it killed 27 million "victory" for the Russian nation can not call (the Jews even 6 million dead is called the Holocaust, that is "burnt offering" that is "finally can fucking edge of EPT killed." And we have 27 million and Victory). As for the "nuclear shield", the Soviet nuclear program is reduced to a popular saying, "quietly and went spizdil called" found "and oversaw the project known atomic scientist Beria. Yes, the same one.

Total industrialization has led to the creation of a dead, motionless, petrified at the birth of industry, simultaneously giving rise to a class in our country, the lumpen proletariat and ersatz ersatz city workers, incidentally killing the Russian urban civilization. Rapper Syava - one of the long-term effects of Stalin's decisions.

Collectivization led to starvation, cannibalism, slavery exploitation of tens of millions of people of the late deficit and, indirectly, the current state of the village. Millennial way of Russian rural life, was burned to the ground - and the village collapsed. What a surprise!

The Cultural Revolution led to the destruction of Russian culture and the intellectual class. Kobzon, House 2, the weak and dispersed corporate intellectuals gogotok with the word "geopolitics" and self-identification of most of the population with ebuchim fucking cattle (but not with the upper classes, as in a normal country) - it's all long-term consequences of Stalinism. Profits of these nobles - would be "new nobility" (self-determination according to the FSB Patrushev), thanks to Comrade Stalin.

Victory in World War II ("We have liberated Kiev from the Nazis! - Yeah, but I just now looked at the map - it is a different color, Nenashev cho-painted over it. The Germans defeated the type?") Now plyuschat national movement, using the victory of Soviet power to defeat the Russian nation. Nuclear weapons also became the main argument against the creation of a viable army - "We are, if anything, bahnem" - and frankly phallic-fetishistkim fantasies against the background of the general crisis of the armed forces.

I want to say that - what Stalin was still fine, as would we be without his exploits and achievements would now live! Thank you, my dear, that turned our country into a mixture of Mordor, caricatures of industrial society, and Odessa cemetery. Century will appreciate!

[rerevisionist]

The 1950s connection with Hungarian Jews - much of the US nuclear fakery was carried out by Hungarian Jews - must be relevant.

Following is a comment on David Irving's website ( fpp.co.uk ) about Irving's book Uprising! The 1956 events were largely a 'pogrom', though few people call it that, as it would draw attention to the Jewish nature of the thuggish Hungarian regime. From a book by Stanley Rothman and S. Robert Lichter Roots of Radicalism: Jews, Christians, and the New Left (1982, Oxford University Press):-

"[T]he leading cadres of Communist party in the postwar period [of Hungary] were Jews, who completely dominated the regime until 1952-53. Then a series of purges, stemming in part from Stalin's anti-Semitism, eliminated many of them. Jews were also active in other parties, including the Social Democrats, before such parties were crushed by the Communist regime. Their role was most significant, however, within the Communist party. The top membership of the new Communist regime, including the secret police, during its first years was almost entirely Jewish. The wags of Budapest explained the presence of a lone gentile in the party leadership on the grounds that a 'goy' was needed to turn on the lights on Saturday [sic]."

'Stalin's anti-semitism' is obviously a code-phrase for something, though I'm uncertain what. Note that the final section is, in the best Jewish tradition, a lie - the phrase was that a lone gentile was needed to sign the execution papers on Saturdays.

[dinosaur_denier]

It's worth noting, that stalinists often falsely attribute the following quote to Winston Churchill: "Stalin came to Russia with a wooden plough and left it in possession of atomic weapons". The supposed possession of bombs justified in their eyes all the horrors of Stalin's reign. But actually Churchill never said anything like that. Moreover, keeping in mind the fact that atomic weapons are not what they are supposed to be, the meaning of the statement turns to the opposite.

[FirstClassSkeptic]

I have noticed that the so called 'communism' in Russia, and the so called 'capitalism' in the USA, both achieved the same ends.

[Sorensen731]

FirstClassSkeptic, the Jews had 2 systems to play with, they kept the best one for their goals.

As you see East Europe is more healthy, Capitalism destroyed the soul (consumerism, hedonism..), Communism destroyed the economy.
The economy can be rebuilt, and humanity has come this far without gadgets and survived much worse.
The soul can't.
They let loose two systems, one to kill the external (property, churches...) and another internal (materialism, free sex, marketing and subliminal messages-control).
The external can be rebuilt, Russia is more Christian than Italy or Spain, and in a way are stronger after surviving hunger and poverty.
NATO countries are weak, easier prey for fear.

I also believed communism as authoritarian was harder to control for them, and they may have been loosing it or afraid of a nationalist takeover.
If you gather all power in one place, you better be sure you will control it.

[rerevisionist]

@ Dinosaur Denier - Winston Churchill: "Stalin came to Russia with a wooden plough and left it in possession of atomic weapons" is obviously borrowed from Suetonius on Augustus Caesar, that he found a Rome made of brick and left it made of marble.
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What is your assessment of the net effect of Jews in Russia? There was supposed to be a lot of industry - mostly imported from the west, and probably, one would guess, designed to support the state's 'elite' - GUlags, factories for tanks and guns, military works, military canals; propagandist material - paper mills, radios etc; and also land enclosures. One of the things that is surprising, on the traditional view, is that such things as battery chickens were not invented in the USSR, despite the fact that they seem to fit in with the industrial production mentality.