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Russian nuclear engineers killed? [Toxic dump link?]

Postby FirstClassSkeptic » 22 Jun 2011 09:51

Senior managers of Russian state-owned company Gidropress and two top atomic energy engineers have reportedly been among the victims of the recent Russian air crash.
A Tu- 134 passenger plane carrying 52 on board crashed near Petrozavodsk airport in Russia's northern republic of Karelie on Monday.
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Re: Russian nuclear engineers killed intentionally in plane crash?

Postby rerevisionist » 22 Jun 2011 11:47

Thanks very much for that, FirstClassSkeptic. Here's an extract---
... Gidropress' senior officials along with several other officials from three Russian nuclear companies were to attend a meeting in Petrozavodsk city, Ria Novosti News Agency reported on Tuesday.

Gidropress is a subsidiary of the Russian nuclear export agency Rosatom.

The flight came to an unscheduled ending about 15 kilometers from the airport. Its fuselage caught fire and was destroyed. ...

I like that phrase 'an unscheduled ending'. It seems most, but not all, of the passenger's lives came to 'an unscheduled ending'.

Here's an extract from a fuller report from a Swedish source (in English)--
Among those killed in the crash of Tu-134 near Petrozavodsk June 21 [2011] were representatives of three nuclear power companies. On it informs RIA Novosti news agency referring to the source of "Rosatom".

This is an EDB "Hydropress" OKBM Africantov name and company "Atomenergomash". It is reported that "Hydropress" in the crash lost almost all leadership: on the plane were killed director - general designer Sergey Ryzhov, Chief Designer Nikolai Trunov and deputy director of the company Nikolai Banyuk.

Also on the list who died named chief technology OKBM Africantov Andrey Trofimov and the head of "Atomenergomash" Valery Lyalin. All members of the nuclear companies were sent on to a meeting to be held in "Petrozavodskmash".

I did a bit of Googling on Petrozavodsk and found a link to huge Las Vegas meeting - More than 1,200 companies from all sectors of the industry exhibit each year and more than 19,000 attendees come together at POWER-GEN International.
Maybe a reader in or near Las Vegas could go and ask questions!

By Googling on 'Petrozavodsk nuclear power conference' I found information on the conference, which is (was?) scheduled for 3rd - 10th July this year, 2011. is in Russian, with an English link; but there's no sign of the conference that I could find, though I found a downloadable booklet in English In fact, I'll give the full text of it; maybe someone will recognise names, or identify some spurious science topics, or identify possible Jewish controllers ---
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Re: Russian nuclear engineers killed?

Postby rerevisionist » 22 Jun 2011 11:57

Petrozavodsk nuclear power conference - 3-10 July 2011.
(I think this is the conference, though it seems all aimed at 'juniors' - perhaps there was another conference for the bosses?
- rerevisionist)

Organizing committee
V.V. Mazalov - Dr. of sci., prof., director of IAMR KarRS RAS
Yu.V. Zaika - Dr. of sci., prof., IAMR
A.V. Voronin - PhD, vice-rector of PetrSU
I.E. Gabis - Dr. of sci., prof., StPSU
members of committee:
A.N. Kalashnikov - PhD, Fed.Ag.Atom.Energy
B.F. Reutov - Ministry of Science
V.V. Popov - PhD, IAMR
T.P. Tihomirova - PhD, IAMR
I.A. Chernov - PhD, IAMR
secretary of committee:
Natalia Ivanovna Rodchenkova, PetrSU
???.: +7(8142)76-63-12
????: +7(8142)76-63-13

Program committee
R.I.Il’kaev – academician of RAS,
director of Russ. Fed. Nucl. Cent.
A.A.Kurdumov - Dr. of sci., prof., StPSU
A.A.Uhimchuk - Dr. of sci., Russ. Fed. Nucl. Cent.
members of committee:
A.K.Chernishev - Dr. of sci., RFNC
T.N.Kompaniets - PhD, StPSU
R.A.Causey - Dr. of sci., USA
A.Hassanein - Dr. of sci., USA
P.Ioannou - Prof., University of Athens, Greece
secretary of committee:
Irina Sergeevna Ludinovskova, StPSU
Phone: +7(812)428-44-98
Fax: +7(812)428-44-49

[Logo of 'International conference for young scientists and specialists']

Time and place of conference
The conference will be held from 03 to 10 of July at the International training centre «Urozero» of Petrozavodsk State University, Karelia, Russia.
How to find the training centre will be explained in the last information message. It will be published by 10 of May 2005.

Registration and fee
Registration has been closed. List of participants is published on the conference web-site.
Conference fee will be collected at the reception at 03 of July:

for students – 1000 rubles,
for others – 2000 rubles.

Additional information
The lectures will be published on CDs after the conference. The organizing committee will be thankful for an electronic version of the lectures. The preferable format is MS PowerPoint.

Conference web-site
Full information about the conference, phones, e-mails, latest news can be found on the web-site:

[Logo of Deuterium, Tritium, Helium, Hydrogen - for 'juniors']

03-10 July 2005
Petrozavodsk, training centre

Inst. Appl. Math. Research KarRC RAS,
Federal agency
of atomic energy of Russia,
Russ. Fed. Nucl. Cent.,
StPetersburg State Univ.,
Petrozavodsk State Univ.

The following lectures will be read at the conference IHISM'05 Junior by the best specialists of Russia, Europe and the USA.

· Fundamental research of Russian Nuclear Centre by director of Russian Nuclear Centre, academician Il’kaev R.I
· Atom and Hydrogen: Fundamentals of the Stable World Energy by academician Ponomarjov-Stepnoj N.N.
· How Much Energy Does the Human Need? by Corresponding member of RAS Ponomarjov L.I.
· Hydrogen brittleness of construction materials by prof. Archakov Yu.I.
· A Review of Tritium Retention and Release from Carbon, Beryllium, and Tungsten by Dr. R.Causey, Sandia National Laboratory, USA
· Lazer and Discharge Produced Plasmas for Extreme Ultraviolet Lithography by Dr. A. Hassanein, Argonne National Laboratory, USA
· “ATLAS” Experiment in LHC-Accelerator by prof. P.Ioannou, Athens University, Greece
· Hydrogen Energy Devices. Peculiarities of using construction materials by prof. Holodny V.I.
· Construction Materials for Nuclear Techniques by prof. Chernov V.M.
· Thermal-Nuclear Reactors. Problems of the first side by prof. Mazul I.V.
· Hydrogen in Research Programmes of Russian Nuclear Centre by prof. Yuhimchuk A.A., Russian Nuclear Centre
· Superpenetrability. Theory and Applications by prof. Livshits A.I., St-Petersburg University of Technology
· Boundary-value problems for modelling hydrogen interaction with solids by prof. Zaika Yu.V., Inst. Appl. Math. Research of Karelian Research Centre RAS

· Hydrogen and Helium Issues for Liquid Metal Plasma Facing Components by Dr. A.Hassanein, Argonne National Laboratory, USA
· Structure and Dynamics of Hydrogen in Intermetallic Hydrides of Rare-Earth Metals by prof. V.Yartys,IFE, Norway
· Evaluating Rate Constants of Hydrogen interaction with Metals by Methods of Statistical Physics by dr. Komarova M.V., St-Petersburg State University
· Calculating Energetic Parameters of Hydrogen Interaction with Metals by Quantum-Chemistry Methods by dr. Dobrotvorsky A.M.
· Kinetics of Forming and Decomposing of Hydrides of Metals by prof. Gabis I.E., St-Petersburg State University
· Kinetics and Energy of Hydrogen Interaction with Solids by prof. Kurdjumov A.A., St-Petersburg State University
· Hydrogen Influence on Zirconium Alloys by Dr. Ivanova S.V.
· Hydrogen in Zirconium by dr. Shmakov A.A.
· Hydrogen-related Problems with Reactor Materials by prof. Kalin B.A.
· Influence of Hydrogen on Mechanical Properties of Materials by prof. Tkachjov V.I., Ukraine
· Introduction and Accumulation of Hydrogen Ions in Metals by prof. Pisarev A.A.
· Hydrogen and Helium in Metals by dr. Kompaniets T.N., St-Petersburg State University
· Structure and Properties of Titanium Alloys After Reversible Hydrogen Alloying by Dr. Murzinova M.
· Modern Level of Technology of Hydrogen Isotopes Splitting by Dr. Magomedbekov E.P.
· Metal-Hydride Way of Hydrogen Storage by Dr. Tarasov B.P.
· Mechanical Aspects and Deformation Response in Thermodynamically Open and Closed Metal-Hydrogen Systems by prof. Skrjabina N.E., Perm State University
· Thermodynamical peculiarities of Metal-Hydride Systems by dr. Klyamkin S.N., Moscow State University
· Study of Hydrogen Retention in Plasma-Contacting Materials Used For Controlled Thermo-nuclear Synthesis by Alimov V.H.
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Re: Russian nuclear engineers killed?

Postby rerevisionist » 22 Jun 2011 12:14

More on Russian Conferences - this one is Pugwash

6th Workshop in Pugwash Series:
The Future of the Nuclear Weapons Complexes of Russia and the USA
28 May - 1 June, 2000
St. Petersburg - Petrozavodsk, Russia

Pugwash was set up just after WW2, attracting the attention of e.g. Bertrand Russell. From memory, it was clearly a phoney, as it never investigated Hiroshima/Nagasaki, or the Jewish connection between USA/USSR.

Curiosities include not mentioning e.g. India and Pakistan and Israel - it only mentions 'the five traditional nuclear powers'! I presume the fifth is China. There's also a great deal of material on chemical wastes, all of course irrelevant to the nuclear issue. In fact I'd suggest the 'nuclear weapons' fraud has been used for decades as a way to handle disposal of toxic and dangerous chemical wastes. See the article on our site China. Thorium-Based Nuclear Power a Toxic Dump?
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Re: Russian nuclear engineers killed? [Toxic dump link?]

Postby FirstClassSkeptic » 23 Jun 2011 00:01

It seems to be more of a conference on metallurgy than nuclear power. I only see one lecture there on the fundamentals of thermonuclear reactors.

They seem to be concerned with effects of hydrogen on metals, mostly, and maybe on a few other materials. Then a few of the lectures seem to be discussing perhaps the storage of hydrogen; like maybe for hydrogen power? Then there's three lectures on plasma.
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Re: Russian nuclear engineers killed? [Toxic dump link?]

Postby FirstClassSkeptic » 29 Jun 2011 15:40

http://*SUSPECT LINK*www.whatdoesitmean dot com/index1496.htm

The Russian atomic experts killed in this attack included lead designers Sergei Rizhov, Gennadi Benyok, Nicolai Tronov and Russia's top nuclear technological expert, Andrei Tropinov, all of whom worked at Iran’s Bushehr Nuclear Plant after the contract for the plant's construction passed from the German Siemens company to Russian hands.

Even with the catastrophic loss of these top nuclear experts, however, Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov announced on Monday that the Bushehr Nuclear Plant will begin operations in early August, and which the Saudis greatly fear due to Iran’s being able to manufacture atomic bombs once this project is complete.
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Re: Russian nuclear engineers killed? [Toxic dump link?]

Postby rerevisionist » 29 Jun 2011 16:53

'.. killed in this attack...' -- I looked at your link to check. Originally it was described as a plane crash; now it was 'an attack' by bomb(s)! Hm. The article claims there's a Saudi-Israel alliance, which of course is credible as they are similar states - artificially created, and artificially propped up but with the huge difference that once has a huge natural resource. Both fear democracy and fear equity. On the other hand, maybe there isn't an alliance at all - I can't see any reason why just one could be attacked singly, and not the other. Maybe Iran is in the process of discovering its nuclear plant isn't what it was cracked up to be? Or maybe it already knows, and the Russians were going to brief them? Or maybe it knows, and the Russians were going to hoodwink them?

Tip: If you're a nuclear engineer, maybe you should travel on your own, and write out what you know and hide it somewhere, with instructions for post-death recovery of it? Something like the Andrei Tropinov Code? - Dan Brown, get to work!
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Re: Russian nuclear engineers killed? [Toxic dump link?]

Postby FirstClassSkeptic » 30 Jun 2011 02:19

It would seem that the real reason they want you to show ID to get on an airplane is not for security reasons, but so they know which airplane you are on in case they want to kill you.

Yes, Sorcha is saying the plane was exploded. I don't catch why. She also has the unusual theory that the USA is really allied with Iran. Of course, 'unusual' doesn't mean 'untrue'.
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