India nuclear power [H-bomb] 'myth'-Daily Telegraph Sep 2009

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India nuclear power [H-bomb] 'myth'-Daily Telegraph Sep 2009

Postby rerevisionist » 18 Jul 2011 23:57

Here's the online article, dated Sept 2009:
India's nuclear power a 'myth'
India's status as a nuclear power has been described as a "myth" by the scientist who carried out its controversial hydrogen bomb tests in 1998.

By Dean Nelson in New Delhi 6:00AM BST 19 Sep 2009

He said the device had only "fizzled". The claims by the test director K Santhanam have provoked an outcry in India which treasures its nuclear status as a symbol of its power in Asia where it has been locked in an arms race with both Pakistan and China.
[MMM]The Indian Prime Minister Dr Manmohan Singh recently unveiled India's first nuclear submarine as a statement of its naval ambitions.
[MMM]But according to K. Santhanam, who directed the secret detonations of five Shakt' nuclear devices at their nuclear test site at Pokhran, in the Rajasthan desert, the true test results were covered up and falsely hailed as a success by the Hindu nationalist BJP government.
[MMM]At the time the then Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee declared: "India is now a nuclear weapons state. We have the capacity for a big bomb now."
[MMM]Although he stated India's bomb would never be a weapon of aggression, the tests were widely denounced and provoked retaliation from Pakistan which tested its own nuclear device 15 days later.
[MMM]But Mr Vajpayee's statement was not true, Mr Santhanam has claimed. The data sent to his office revealed the devices had yielded only around half the 45 kilotons it had claimed.
[MMM]"The decision to declare the hydrogen bomb a success was more of a political fatwa than a considered scientific-technical determination," he said. He has now called for an inquiry into the test results and warned that the creation of nuclear power could not be "based on myths."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... -myth.html


Interestingly, searching on H bomb myth India Janes - 'Janes' being a 'defence' publication - had an April 2005 article with the same theme. Possibly earlier - why not? Pakistan 15 days later therefore of course sounds suspect.

An interesting aspect here is that the British Daily Telegraph has been owned since 2004 by David and Frederick Barclay, who are (everyone says) Catholics. It's possible this is outside the normal Jewish ownership and lies system, and therefore they feel free - or relatively free - to expose Jewish-related frauds. The Youtube video Nuke Lies was uploaded 4 Nov 2008.
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Re: India nuclear power [H-bomb] 'myth'-Daily Telegraph Sep

Postby FirstClassSkeptic » 19 Jul 2011 01:31

This is interesting. I have not heard this before. I wonder how many other scientists would tell you the same thing, if they trusted you to keep quiet about it.

provoked an outcry in India which treasures its nuclear status as a symbol of its power in Asia


There is that national and racial vanity, and pride, that won't let people admit they've been suckered. It's like that with the NASA moon landing when you tell people it's a hoax.
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Re: India nuclear power [H-bomb] 'myth'-Daily Telegraph Sep

Postby NUKELIES » 19 Jul 2011 20:44

This is a confusing story, but I'll offer my interpretation. FirstClassSkeptic mentioned national pride. India is viciously proud due to it's chasmic inferiority complex. It constantly compares itself to China, and hates the West because of the West's obvious [perceived] superiority.

If this article reveals any truth, it may be that K Santhanam - "nuclear scientist" that he may be - is unaware of the non-existence of nuclear bombs. This will seem improbable until one considers his nationality. After all - who would be advising him? U.S. nuclear scientists? Russian? British? Probably not - he and his assistants are probably constructing test "bombs" from textbook diagrams.
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Re: India nuclear power [H-bomb] 'myth'-Daily Telegraph Sep

Postby FirstClassSkeptic » 19 Jul 2011 22:59

NUKELIES wrote:After all - who would be advising him? U.S. nuclear scientists? Russian? British? Probably not - he and his assistants are probably constructing test "bombs" from textbook diagrams.


Israel. The jews may have sold him some plans.
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Re: India nuclear power [H-bomb] 'myth'-Daily Telegraph Sep

Postby rerevisionist » 21 Jul 2011 00:59

Don't forget that money and status in the 'third world' make a huge difference to lifestyle. When India and Africa became independent, all the students wanted to become civil servants or lawyers, and none wanted to be engineers - or so I was told. It's possible physicists know perfectly well their work is fraudulent, but to admit it would mean a catastrophic drop in prestige and income for them. This is true in the west - biologists have been unwilling to investigate whether the endoplasmic reticulum in cells is just a mistake, an artefact of electron microscopy, because there's a vast volume of inconclusive work based on it. NASA personnel must know perfectly well that a lot of their work is fraudulent. For that matter, the US has a record of war crimes which most military personnel must know of - but will not admit, since this would damage their careers and money. Then there are lawyers, academics, journalists, financial manipulators ....

Anyway 'Third World' physicists must have a similar vested interest, if possible even more so...
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Re: India nuclear power [H-bomb] 'myth'-Daily Telegraph Sep

Postby FirstClassSkeptic » 21 Jul 2011 02:51

"The love of money is a root of all evil."
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Re: India nuclear power [H-bomb] 'myth'-Daily Telegraph Sep

Postby NUKELIES » 24 Jul 2011 20:12

Israel. The jews may have sold him some plans.


Exactly - plans.
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Re: India nuclear power [H-bomb] 'myth'-Daily Telegraph Sep

Postby Lies All Lies » 25 Jul 2011 03:31

FirstClassSkeptic wrote:"The love of money is a root of all evil."


The love of mammon is the root of many evils.
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