[rerevisionist]

Cowan Bellarmino said---
... If you haven't checked out Michael Hoffman's breakdown of the NYT propaganda on his blog you're really missing out. The drums of war are being beaten rather loudly.

Do you have a link to that piece? I can't find it. Thanks!

[rerevisionist]

@Ewing2001 - You've provided vast amounts of information about high-tech companies, and their evolution over the years, and international connections. You've also produced what I presume must be less well-evidenced material on propagandist groups, broadcasters, press etc and think-tanks and pressure groups. Do you have a basic point that you're getting at, or are you simply collecting and presenting evidence, without a unifying hypothesis?

[ewing2001]

Not sure, but my main focus is an opportunity to bring new Chronology into some new context, that's why i refer to nu|chronology, because it deals more with an occasional experimental approach. What *if humans are *really just as old as in 362 years old ? What if everyone realizes that the lie of the Nuke is the current grandfather of false anxieties and abuse?
The "what if" could produce some positive consequent imo. My research fragments from the past had more political and idealistic background but i backed up from that attitude a long time ago. I'm more interested in a general switch within the idea of humanism and communication, also as media scientist, sometimes with the help of specific humor and entertainment, but i'm not sure if it's too late for all this or "the right time". Thanks for the request ;

[Cowan Bellarmino]

Brilliant map Rerevisionist. I won't hold my breath to see that broadcast on any major television network, yet I somehow remember how these so-called reporters lamented heavily the fact that they assisted in getting the US into the 2003 Iraq War.

The link for Hoffman's breakdown of anti-Iranian propaganda is here:

https://revisionistreview.blogspot.com/2 ... bings.html

and here:

https://revisionistreview.blogspot.com/2 ... orism.html

@ FirstClassSkeptic:

I agree, Iran is on more Christian than the US, but the supposed Christian pastor on death row is being exploited at this time by both the US government, big media (like Fox) and other false Christian groups in order to bolster their attempts to smear Iran and the Iranian government as anti-Christian barbarians worthy of destruction at the hands of the pretense-only Christian US. The propaganda campaign is in overdrive right now. Collecting these stories and columns would make for a good history study someday. It's textbook.

[rerevisionist]

Thanks for the links, CB. Mossad is in a similar to position to Jewish thugs who act against free speech within countries with the complicity of the legal system, police and media. It's the multinational version. Here's a bit from Hoffmann

By Michael Hoffman https://www.revisionisthistory.org

Soon after India agreed to buy Iranian oil and circumvent western sanctions against Iran, a car bomb attributed to Iran was detonated in India.

Today in Thailand, on China's doorstep, explosions are being blamed on an "Iranian national." Until now, China has refused to support a war on Iran.

Iran's Foreign Ministry spokesman, Ramin Mehmanparast, stated: "Israel has bombed its embassies in New Delhi, India and Tbilisi, Georgia to tarnish Iran's friendly ties with the host countries," adding, "Israel perpetrated the terrorist actions to launch psychological warfare against Iran."

False flag operations are a means by which the secret services of nations like the Israeli entity and the US Federal government rule the world. The Oklahoma City bombing in 1995 and the 9/11 terror attacks are but two examples of this.

The media are complicit by reporting the bombings in India and Thailand according to the American/Israeli script, rather than stating the fact that the Mossad is an organization known to have mastered false flag "black ops," and then launching an investigation into the likelihood that the recent attacks attributed to Iran are the work of the CIA and/or the Mossad.

Mossad commander Tamir Pardo

Strictly speaking, I think Hoffman is wrong - false flag operations don't rule the world; they are intended to influence 'public opinion'.

[rerevisionist]

British nuclear expert [Timothy Hampton] died in 40-metre plunge - inside UN building in Vienna Oct 2009

https://austriantimes.at/news/General_News/2009-10-21/17423/British_nuclear_expert_dies_in_40-metre_plunge


The UN has headquarters in New York of course - also Geneva, Nairobi, and Vienna.

Authorities said the 47-year-old man—a member of the Comprehensive Nuclear-Test-Ban Treaty Organization (CTBTO)—had joined the UN’s current talks with Iran over its nuclear programme.

From the viewpoint of this site, CTBTO must be fraudulent, since it has never announced the fraudulence of all (or at least some) tests. It must be an exit strategy and money making scheme, though it may of course have military psyops functions. I wonder what Timothy Hampton was up to? Surely modern buildings have protection against falls down stairwells!

Follow-up Daily Mail story on modern forensic medical tecnhique showing murder--
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1224377/British-nuclear-experts-17th-floor-UN-death-plunge-suicide.html

[Cowan Bellarmino]

Good point. However, I took from Hoffman's statement your exact point. False flags are simply a means to keep the grip tight, influence public opinion which in turn influences governance. OKC was used as an impetus to severely curb domestic freedom, and this was supported by the public because of the Establishment's story. This was moved further along with 9/11, again with whole-hearted public support to erode domestic freedoms under the Patriot Act and then to advance their global aims.

[ewing2001]

After Iran, Nuke-Fakery|Nukelies- dog and pony show continues in North Korea and China

https://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20 ... nspections
02/29/2011 11:44 a.m
N.Korea agrees to nuclear moratorium and UN inspections

"...North Korea agreed on Wednesday to stop nuclear tests, uranium enrichment and long-range missile launches and to allow nuclear inspectors to visit its Yongbyon nuclear complex to verify the moratorium has been enforced..."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yongbyon_N ... rch_Center
"...Construction of the 5 MWe experimental reactor began in 1980...
Another 200 MWe Magnox full-scale power reactor was being constructed at Taechon...



Yongbyon, "North Korea"

https://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/d733c466-5 ... z1noRL8l8a
02/29/2011 [print/online reg.]
China nuclear protest picks up steam - Public anxiety is growing ...

"...China, ..gets just 2 per cent of its power from its 15 nuclear reactors, according to the latest data. However, this is expected to more than double in the next decade as it moves away from fossil fulers...Bejing is embarking on the world's most dramatic programme with Pengze just one of 26 reactors under reconstructions.....
...the Pengze nuclear plant is owned by four Chinese power and infrastructure companies, China Power Investment, Jiangzi Ganneng, Jiangzi Ganyu Expressway and Shenzhen Nanshan Power..."



Jiangxi Pengze Nuclear Power Plant, "China" [source: eng.cpicorp.com.cn ]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Power_Investment
"...one of the five largest state-owned power producers in the People's Republic of China, administrated by SASAC for the State Council of the People's Republic of China...listed in Hong Kong..."

https://investing.businessweek.com/resea ... =000899:CH
Jiangxi Ganneng Co., Ltd., together with its subsidiaries, engages in the generation and sale of thermal and hydro electric power in the People’s Republic of China. As of December 31, 2007, it had an installed capacity of 1,060 megawatts..."

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-02-1 ... -loan.html
02/12/2012
"...Jiangxi Ganyue Expressway Co. signed a 4.5 billion yuan, 23-year syndicated loan with four banks for construction of an expressway in eastern Jiangxi province..."

https://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid= ... xId718g3KM
December 29, 2009
Shenzhen Nanshan Refuses Goldman Demand for Payment
"...Shenzhen Nanshan is among 68 Chinese state-controlled companies including China Eastern Air Holding Co. and China National Aviation Holding Co. that lost money on derivative products sold by banks including Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, Merrill Lynch & Co. and Citigroup Inc., according to the State- owned Assets Supervision and Administration Commission..."

[rerevisionist]

AIPAC [America Israel group] and prevention of diplomacy with Iran.

Here's a new article by Kevin MacDonald, rather confusingly entitled Alan Dershowitz: Policing Jewish Opponents of a War with Iran. https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2012/02/alan-dershowitz-policing-jewish-opponents-of-a-war-with-iran/ (Alan Dershovitz is politically 'left' - code word for Jewish group promoting anti-white activities - and his role is to verbally attack the few Jews who oppose war).

The article is mainly about M J Rosenberg, who wrote this https://politicalcorrection.org/fpmatters/201111030008 last Nov 3rd, on AIPAC prohibiting diplomacy, in order to push for war. Part is quoted by Kevin MacDonald -
No person employed with the United States Government may contact in an official or unofficial capacity any person that ... is an agent, instrumentality, or official of, is affiliated with, or is serving as a representative of the Government of Iran;


American moron (damaged, but not too much) shakes hands with Israel Firster, Paul Wolfowitz

Anyway the point here is that

Another very ominous sign is that the Congressional forces advocating war have now settled on a weaker criterion for war—that Iran simply possess “the scientific knowledge and industrial means to build a nuclear bomb,” not necessarily actually build one or even intend to build one ... Philip Giraldi notes “There are about 50 countries in the world that have the capability to produce a nuclear weapon if they chose to do so, making Iran far from unique but for its persistence as a thorn in the side of Israel and Israel’s powerful lobby in the United States.”

Is this recognition that such bombs don't exist?

[Cowan Bellarmino]

Rerev,
It could be. They are pulling the WMD card on Syria now as well, and not nukes. One telling piece of evidence is the fact that none of this alleged dictators (Hussein, Gaddafi, et al. who supposedly had vast stockpiles of WMD's and the like ) ever used them, even when it became obvious they were going to lose and be overthrown.

The other point I take from your highlighted quote is that Iran would then be found guilty of thought crime.

[ewing2001]

Iran -election "rigged" for "conservatives"?
Or is it also for a nukeExit-strategy and apparent democracy false-hope ?

Update 03/12, 9:09 am est :
The european media is playing *right now the loss of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad vs. Ali Chamene'i aka ?Ali Khamenei? as a "breaking-news"-surprise, and noone seems to twitter yet, that this election result might have been rigged as well, obviously to play yet another so called "democracy"-script, like also last year in egypt ;
https://twitter.com/#!/search/iran%20election%20rigged
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&gl= ... 12&bih=464 [iran election news updates]




winner, winning actor or acting winner ? ; -

The irony is that ?Khamenei?|Chamene'i (is this still the same person as in the 8os -he's now officially 73 years old ?!) was officially a legendary Musavi "Ayatollah Chomeini"- supporter -therefore a former "U.S.-enemy" as well,
also he was once allegedly tortured by the SAVAK, at that time an official CIA- and Mossad -front ;
(Since then he could have been "turned" into yet another CIA-stooge as well, nowadays maybe more a EUROZONE anxietyOP-tool imo.
https://www.eslam.de/begriffe/c/chamenei.htm
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Khamenei



staged iran election photo ? why would irani women 'show their face' almost into the camera ? bs*it factor ?
source : https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/0 ... 17,00.html

The american version of wikipedia|cleanyPedia seems to ignore this part on the SAVAK ;
Instead it smacks to me, they're building the same "surprise"-gig as last week in North Korea, in refreshing Ali Khamenei's fatwa from August 2005, when he expressed his "opinion" *against "production, stockpiling and use of nuclear weapons" . Or they playing the "wait and see"- theme for pseudo-intellectual political "right vs. left"-analysts in mainstream media.
Another advanced dog and pony show "between U.S."|Aspen Strategy Group|CNAS- Tool Obama "and Iran" might follow, maybe even to let Obama look better for the sheeple at the end ;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayatollah_Ali_Khamenei#Fatwas

[ https://justpaste.it/eurobama , https://friendfeed.com/rooms/obamawatch ;
[ https://i.friendfeed.com/59eb9fb4a83c270 ... eb6e438973 ]




is Khamenei' [sp.] now still pro or anti- "nuke" ?

But maybe this theme is at 50:50 now, since he's also an outstanding "Israel-enemy" as well ;

[rerevisionist]

Apologies for yet more visuals. Interesting Russia Today (RT) Youtube, with a chap from Birmingham called Peter Eyre, who is adamant that nuclear weapons are for deterrence only and would never be used - but see below. Interestingly, he is explicitly anti-Zionist; and he expects some false-flag event - this of course would never be broadcast by the BBC or Jewish media. He is certain Israel doesn't have the capability of attacking Iran. And he doesn't think the IAEA is of any value, mainly because he thinks nuclear weapons (which he appears to believe in) wouldn't be used, and that all countries are entitled to do their own thing about defence.



Peter Eyre is on PressTV too; here's a quotation about him--

The United States has used tactical nuclear weapons in its military campaign against Iraq and Afghanistan, a Middle East expert tells Press TV.
“Tactical nuclear weapons were used, at least one in Iraq and several were used in Afghanistan --in the Tora Bora mountains,” Peter Eyre, a Middle East consultant, said. Eyre pointed out that the atomic bomb dropped on Afghanistan's Tora Bora region was so powerful that it actually created an earthquake there. The analyst went on to say that the use of such lethal weapons by US military, which is a gross violation of the Geneva Convention, has been sanctioned by the US presidents; thus they should be prosecuted for war crimes.
. . . . . "In America, the ultimate commander in chief is the president," Eyre said, adding that the President has the final say in using such weapons. The US is the first country in the world to develop nuclear weapons and the only one to use them. Thousands of people were killed in August 1945, when the US bombers dropped atomic bombs on Japan's Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

This site https://www.presstv.ir/detail/212827.html includes a video with Peter Eyre and others - it's about 25 minutes and includes sound material on 'non-conventional weapons', chemical warfare, biological warfare, Agent Orange, cluster bombs, deniability, persistent lies and so on. The nuclear discussion includes film of the supposed mushroom clouds and black and white medical footage in Japan.

It looks to me that 'small' bombs are developed under the pretext that they are nuclear - 'fusion-fusion low radiation' weapons for example sound nonsensical.

I'll try contacting Eyre to see if he has any comment on the genuineness - or not - of nuclear weapons.