Is 'Hypnosis' Real [or not]?

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Is 'Hypnosis' Real?

Postby Sorensen731 » 29 Feb 2012 21:50

That reminds me of G. H. Estabrooks
"This psychologist reminisces about his long career as a hypnotist: how he "programmed" American spies with hypnosis:"

"One of the most fascinating but dangerous applications of hypnosis is its use in military intelligence. This is a field with which I am familiar though formulating guide lines for the techniques used by the United States in two world wars.

Communication in war is always a headache. Codes can be broken. A professional spy may or may not stay bought. Your own man may have unquestionable loyalty, but his judgment is always open to question.

The "hypnotic courier," on the other hand, provides a unique solution. I was involved in preparing many subjects for this work during World War II. One successful case involved an Army Service Corps Captain whom we''l call George Smith.

Captain Smith had undergone months of training. He was an excellent subject but did not realize it. I had removed from him, by post-hypnotic suggestion, all recollection of ever having been hypnotized.

First I had the Service Corps call the captain to Washington and tell him they needed a report of the mechanical equipment of Division X headquartered in Tokyo. Smith was ordered to leave by jet next morning, pick up the report and return at once. Consciously, that was all he knew, and it was the story he gave to his wife and friends.

Then I put him under deep hypnosis, and gave him -- orally -- a vital message to be delivered directly on his arrival in Japan to a certain colonel -- let's say his name was Brown -- of military intelligence. Outside of myself, Colonel Brown was the only person who could hypnotize Captain Smith. This is "locking." I performed it by saying to the hypnotized Captain: "Until further orders from me, only Colonel Brown and I can hypnotize you. We will use a signal phrase 'the moon is clear.' Whenever you hear this phrase from Brown or myself you will pass instantly into deep hypnosis." When Captain Smith re-awakened, he had no conscious memory or what happened in trance. All that he was aware of was that he must head for Tokyo to pick up a division report.

On arrival there, Smith reported to Brown, who hypnotized him with the signal phrase. Under hypnosis, Smith delivered my message and received one to bring back. Awakened, he was given the division report and returned home by jet. There I hypnotized him once more with the signal phrase, and he spieled off Brown's answer that had been dutifully tucked away in his unconscious mind.

The system is virtually foolproof. As exemplified by this case, the information was "locked" in Smith's unconscious for retrieval by the only two people who knew the combination. The subject had no conscious memory of what happened, so could not spill the beans. No one else could hypnotize him even iv they might know the signal phrase."

I have both books, it's hard to watch more clearly the different layers of truth, one for the public (only an expert on public opinion...) and the more classified one (real mind hacking)
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Re: Is 'Hypnosis' Real?

Postby NUKELIES » 29 Feb 2012 22:10

I've never believed I could be hypnotised. I think you have to be a sheep brain to be that easily controlled.

Mesmerism on the other hand is real - all I have to do is watch an engrossing movie and I can "veg out."
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Re: Is 'Hypnosis' Real?

Postby Sorensen731 » 29 Feb 2012 22:19

He gave the number of 20% of the population as good subjects.
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Re: Is 'Hypnosis' Real?

Postby ewing2001 » 01 Mar 2012 00:36

I once worked at a german television channel for a hipnosis reality tv show. It was completely rigged. However i once remember, i watched it at home and fell asleep before he even started. lol, it's true ; Uri Geller was the most prominent fraud as far as i recall. I think on tv most "victims" were actors or extras. Regular patients must be gullible or it's suggested, to just fall in "trance" by themselves ;
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Re: Is 'Hypnosis' Real?

Postby Cowan Bellarmino » 01 Mar 2012 15:47

"Almost all people are hypnotics. The proper authority saw to it that the proper belief should be induced, and the people believed properly." Charles Fort

I believe hypnosis to be very real. It's a common, every day thing for most people. The thing is, most don't realize it. You put yourself into a trance most commonly when you're doing something that is a daily routine. Take walking to the mail, or driving to work in the morning; when you "zone out," you're in a trance. Are you concentrating on the computer screen right now? Have you completely ignored other bodily senses right now to concentrate on reading? If it's that easy for you to put yourself into a quasi-trance, then a skilled hypnotist could do much more. This is to say nothing of subliminal ads, music, art and television which is very powerful. In addition, as Bowart discusses in "Operation Mind Control," an individual behaves much differently in a crowd, and becomes extremely susceptible to suggestion. The first thing though, is that the speaker or leader has to win you over.

As Michael Hoffman wrote in "Secret Societies and Psychological Warfare": Flattery is the first step for mind control.

I read this article several years ago during the McCain/Obama campaign. While there are some melodramatics - save the Constitution type stuff - the info and links regarding Obama's speeches are notable. Here's an example:

First, notice how much Obama uses storytelling in his major speeches, especially at the beginning of nearly
all of his speeches. Storytelling is a primary hypnotic tool because it employs images, metaphor, the
imagination, rhythm, makes us feel like children, and takes us to another time and place so the mind tells
itself “it is only a story” and allows it to pass into the subconscious.116 However, this is just the beginning.

Obama tells a hypnotic story to start this speech with his ultra-slow speaking style with huge pauses after 4-
8 word concepts, to force you to hang on his every word.

But this is only a small part of the proof that he is intentionally using hypnosis.

The key is, that the story he is telling is a story about a “trance theme.” In one of the most popular
conversational hypnosis courses available online, the Power of Conversational Hypnosis, the first principle
taught in how to use hypnotic stories, is exactly what Obama does in this paragraph. This primary technique
is to “Use Simple Stories About Trance Themes”, or in other words, tell stories about processes which are
hypnotic, such as per the examples given, relaxing on a holiday or being fascinated by a film.117

Obama follows precisely this technique in telling a simple story in slow hypnotic rhythm about himself
“sitting quietly”, “collect his thoughts”, and finding himself “reflecting.” Hypnotic stories use embedded
suggestions so that while in trance and you believe something is happening to a character in the story, in
reality the story is about you, implanting messages in your subconscious.118 The story requires you to use
your imagination, and then the only way to understand the story is to imagine the themes Obama is

Another section talks about how he used visual descriptions that are impossible for the mind to grasp, such as "Imagine a million people gathered together..." While the mind wanders on that visualization, an opening is left for subliminals and suggestives. Here's the link:

Anyway, intersting stuff. I don't think these techniques should be dismissed.
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