Should we talk about Jews at all ? If so, how ?

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Re: Should we talk about Jews at all ? If so, how ?

Postby rerevisionist » 01 Oct 2011 14:54

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Re: Should we talk about Jews at all ? If so, how ?

Postby rerevisionist » 16 Oct 2011 22:48

Summary of the 'conspiracy theory' view of the Rothschilds, since about 1900. And the 'fall' of the Berlin Wall.

Anonymous said... [on unrepentantbritishnationalistblogspot. I've edited the English which was very likely not from an English speaker----]

Levi David Cameron's ancestor brokered Japanese Russian war bonds for the Rothschilds in 1905, backing the Japanese to over throw the Tsar and lead a so called communist revolution that would deliver the wealth of Russia and her banking system to the Rothschilds. [Everyone says the Japanese won the Russo-Japanese war; but perhaps the victory was incomplete ---] But when that failed, Bronstein [Trotsky] and Lenin were finance by Kuene Loeb and Co of Wall Street from funds from Jacob Schiff and Rothschild to try again in 1917. After the slaughterhouse of Osiris {the so-called revolution} was carried out, Lenin was in the process of murdering the middle classes when he died. Trotsky was meant to succeed and deliver up Russia on a plate to the bankers. But when the Georgian Stalin gain power he could not be completely co-opted {not surprising, as Georgians and the false Askenazi {false Jews as Churchill called them} were neighbours and the story of the Khasar warriors adopting Judaism in 740 ad is common knowledge there. So although the [Rothschild = red sign] red flag was flying over Russia, the asset grab had not completely worked. True the Tsar was dead and revenge had been gained for his support of Abraham Lincoln in the American Civil War when the Tsar deployed his fleet to oppose the Bank of England, aka the Rothschild central bankers, from forcing their money usury on America thereby stopping them from supporting the confederacy. The Tsar formed a Russian-American alliance opposing the banking illuminati. That is why the Bank of England and Chase Bank in the 1930s started to loan Nazi Germany money through the bank of international settlements [BIS] to rearm Germany to take on Stalin's Russia. [Banking with Hitler]. Now recently when Peter Mandelsohn Mandelson - rerev] met Siad Gaddafi at the Rothschilds Crete mansion, deals were done for Libyan oil and the Lockerbie bomber was released. The idea of the Cold War was to finance both sides, and so Victor Rothschild was the link man. As long as east and west did not go to war, the policy of divide and conquer, and controlling the population through fear, is very profitable [Gladio] arming and under the guise of opposing each other both sides formed agreements to gain the worlds assets [control is always the endgame] and at the right time about 70 billions of dollars were pumped out of the Soviet banks in to Israeli ones and the Berlin wall came down.

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Re: Should we talk about Jews at all ? If so, how ?

Postby JewishChristianTruther » 17 Oct 2011 18:12

Hello all, I am new to the site and I am confused about what this is really all about. I came here because I read about the nuclear attack on underground facilities and it being falsely reported as an earthquake so I searched for the truth on that and was reading this forum and if this is correct tell me if my ompression is wrong tell me. thank you.
I am gathering the impression that this is an anti semitac site that believes as other sites like that do, that Jews are running the show and liars and harming the world type of site, is this correct?
Because, then I read you might not want to say Jew but, powers that be or something not so implicating as if to hide the fact that you are balming "Jews" as a whole group of "bad people" in charge of things?
I really wanted to find answers about the underground being destroyed being true or not but I have this question now alos is this a Jew blaming site?
And if so or if there is that tendency here may I join in and be the voice for certain Jews which I can represent? The Jew who dares to come on here and state what I know, have been taught or have learned on my own to info share? Because, I am a unique Jew being a believer in Christ and that too may not be popular here. As in many groups the athiest or the agnostic has it! I represent a very unique stance in that I am not very gullable and do not believe everything I read or I am told. I am a truth seeker and I cannot help the way I am in that i am a truth seeker. ANd do not misunderstand me that I am a Christian because I am not a Jew because I am still a Jew and proud to be one. I may have different reasons to be proud then what is being spread around among those who hardly know any Jews. I am not proud because I come from a group of people harming the world. I am proud because I come from a group of people that are interested in saving the world. In helping the world. Not in harming a single soul in the world. A view many here may not share or believe that is how Jewish people think. I know of Israeli mentality being different then the Jew in the West. In America. There they fight for their safety each year in an ongoing defence of the land being theirs (ours). I am not a soldier over there. I was raised here in the USA. And taught to believe the land of Israel belongs to us Jews everywhere. And that we need it to survive. WIthout it the propaganda that is spread to those who ahrdly ever know a Jewish person as we are such a minority, the lies are spread as the economy fails in any place anywhere it is easy to blame the Jews.. who are the Jews? Noone in the land hardly know who or what one is even and so they believe any lie that is taught about them and the lies have grown. If you look for Jewish sounding names you might find them but, if you look for nonJewish sounding names you will find much more of them in wealthy positions in the world. The Jews are not the real enemy at all but, the scapegoat for the real enemies are something else. And never could be Jewish. We are raised to love and help not to hurt and kill. It would be a Jew who has forgetten who they are iside that would do such harm to a person let alone the entire world. It is made up that we have power or money or controll when we have less then most other groups of any religion or belief or nationality, We need Israel to be safe from the killing and the chasing from our homes. All over the world Jews have had to scatter just to live because of lies spread by haters who have no idea they are being fooled to think it is Jews fault. It is a distraction from the truth. To think it is a Jewish thing. So search harder for the truth to know how to help protect us all if that is what you want to do. TO know the truth and to be safe. As do I, also.
If I have said anything wrong in your mind tell me.Show me. Teach me. I would love to kow the truth if I am wrong. Do not think I am brainwashed and so a lost cause because, I am not. I have already accepted Jesus so was I a lost cause before? I have an open mind so tell me why I should be upset with the Jews and why I should think it would be better not to have an Israel. Which I believe helps protect America by being there so that America can have some of the Oil and power against other super powers who would have free access and controll of all the oil if America's friend Israel was not there helping the USA as she does. Am I wrong to think this way? Then tell me why I am. Teach me. Because, I know of the poor Jews and why so many are poor and so I know the rich Jew lie and I know of the flat and medium and normal sized noses so I know of the big nose lie. And I know of the generousity and the beginners of the whole charity and giving nature being a Jewish tradition so I know of the tight and cheap and selfish and theiving lie and I know the big names in Hollywood and in the Forbes list so I know the richest people and the power of Hollywood lie. Since being an insider and doing some research I have noticed many lies. The lie of Jews being behind slavery another lie.So tell me what other lies have you to teach me that I ahven't already learned to be lies aboutt he Jews. The Jews killing Christ lie. The Pope even made a world wide apology for that lie a few years ago claiming it was the Romans who Killed Jesus and stating that all the leaders of the churches should tell the truth now. SO what other lies whould I believe, Tell me. Please so I can know the truth like you think you do and if it is true I can be sorry for being a Jew as if it is my fault for being born a Jew. I will take the blame if I come from a nationality of people who did some great wrong to anyone. And I will know what I should apologize about. If I do not know how can I be sorry? Why is it a secret that only nonjews can know what is so bad about us and not us? Because, we might have proof otherwise? It is illegal to accuse in a court of law without having a chance to defend oneself. SO, if you wouldn't mind.. all of you here who knows what I should be sorry about, tell me and if I am wrong about the noses and the selfishness and the lying and the power, tell me so. Because, I want the truth always even if the truth hurts.. but, do you also want the truth even if the truth hurts?
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Re: Should we talk about Jews at all ? If so, how ?

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Re: Should we talk about Jews at all ? If so, how ?

Postby rerevisionist » 20 Oct 2011 18:50

Kevin MacDonald
Review of The Culture of Critique: An Evolutionary Analysis of Jewish Involvement in Twentieth-Century Intellectual and Political Movements (Paperback)


Very important in understanding immigration and other issues.

Fascinating book. It omits quite a bit of material, but I give it five stars for its groundbreaking nature.

A word to Britons: this book is almost entirely USA-based. There are per head far more Jews in the USA than in England, Ireland, France, Russia and other countries. What he says may seem strange, or over-emphasised, in Europe. But it is of great importance in understanding such things as the ludicrously undemocratic immigration policy of Britain and other countries. If you're unaware of the issues, which is quite likely in view of the censorship of all media, it's as good a book as any for exploration.

MacDonald concentrates on two types of movements: political ones (usually publicised and well-known though the Jewish element was secretish), and intellectual - fought out in universities and by departmental social science journals. The first type is usually described as 'left' by Americans. For some reason the US never had a proper socialist movement, possibly because it was from the start taken over by Jews, who didn't want general alleviation of poverty - they wanted it for themselves only. This includes support for the coup in Russia after the First World War and the consequent mass-murder, financed and organised by Jews. This is the root of the difference between 'Reds' and socialists, which to this day is intentionally confused. US 1960s radicals were mainly Jewish - there was mass murder in Vietnam, organised by Kissinger, but this seems to have been regarded as unimportant - it was only the pro-Jewish radicalism that appealed to them. MacDonald isn't good on feminism, which in the US also was largely Jewish.

MacDonald is most sound on intellectual movements, unsurprisingly as he is himself an academic, accustomed to the atmosphere of lectures, syllabuses, professors, exams, textbooks and all the rest of it. The Culture of Critique means simply enough the Jewish attack on all aspects of 'gentile' life. The academic topics referred to in detail are psychoanalysis (mainly of course Freud), anthropology (mainly someone called Boas, not well-known in Britain - who spent his life trying to show that races don't exist, apart of course from Jews), the Frankfurt School (what's loosely called 'Marxism', although there's little of Marx in it). MacDonald's long chapter on the Frankfurt School largely deals with The Authoritarian Personality by Adorno and others. This chapter (and the one following) deal with 'Pathologization of Gentile Group Allegiances' - if you wonder why there seems a positive push against the family, why white abortions are pushed while black immigration is encouraged, why TV programmes show family breakdowns, why freaky sex is promoted - these chapters wil help you find the reason.

MacDonald clearly identifies Jews - for example, Derrida, Hofstadter, Freud - which helps clear away a certain amount of fog. He clarifies why their writing style is often absurdly opaque - because of course they can't say what they really mean, or alternatively they are being boosted and hyped.

MacDonald's first journal article was dated 1983; eleven years later his book on Judaism as a group evolutionary strategy was published. MacDonald's novelty is combining theories of evolution of human behaviour - 'five factors' - with facts about Jews. To illustrate, the new preface (written after 9/11) has an account of Europe genetically developing on a less tribal basis than herders and other narrow self-defined groups. His analysis relies heavily on rather vague things like 'individualism', but at any rate it's in principle testable or at least discussable in detail. In particular, he regards modern US and Europe as not well adapted to withstand attacks by small united groups.

The most important single point he makes in my opinion is the the relentless support, promotion and propagandisation by Jewish groups for immigration, a constant since 1924, and ending with the 1965 Immigration Act in the USA. (Very similar events occurred in Britain). At first only Jewish immigrants were regarded as important by this movement: there was of course no pressure to import Ukrainians starved by Jews, or Indians in famine, impoverished Filipinos, Chinese peasant attacked by the Japanese, and so on. The more modern wholesale importation seems to have been suggested fairly slowly and of course secretly. Thus the British so-called 'Labour' party's Jack Straw (real name Jacob Strawinski) secretly decided in 2000 to flood Britain with immigrants. 'Labour' has been funded by Jews and its level of corruption has increased correspondingly to the present state where only about one white in ten votes for it.

There are of course counter-attack mechanisms, such as the 1920s-coined 'anti-Semitism' which of course MacDonald was subjected to, to his annoyance, since he was dealing with an abstract question of population genetics and competition.

The present volume has a preface which updates the book - this new preface mostly consists of journal reviews and disputes, summaries of books published on the topic since 1998, and some media stories including of course 9/11. The Muslim world, the Black Book of Communism, fanatics like Norman Podhoretz, an account of Charles Lindbergh - 'greeted with a torrent of abuse and hatred unparalleled for a mainstream public figure in American history', long and detailed account of ownership of the movie industry and other media, and so on, including attempts to censor Internet. Someone called Joseph Bendersky's 2000 book The "Jewish Threat" provides an account of a new hostile elite, according to MacDonald; an elite with a rather ridiculous sense of superiority. Quite a lot of the introduction looks at the 'north Eurasian and circumpolar culture area' and its probable evolutionary effects. He gives an explanation of the way self-criticism is exploited by Jews, and has resulted in the present situation. This is well worth reading, but too long to be summarised here. Note that he does not explore the question of bribery or violence against 'out group members' although these are significant in Jewish activity. In Britain at present Ken Livingstone and MPs, and UAF thugs, illustrate those types.

Criticisms: there are many parts of the academic world which are unexamined. (1) History - very obviously there are censorship issues regarding Jewish influences. (2) Economics - I don't think any economics textbooks deal with the issue of paper money or its present Fed/Bank of England monopoly. Arguably, this is the most important single theoretical issue of all. At present Jewish groups actually get paid to organise printing of money. For example Soros in his currency deals is part of a small clique that can virtually print money at will. Unsurprising therefore that he and others like him manage to make money from the system! Similarly MacDonald does not explore such questions as large-scale fraud, and whether depressions and crises are artificially generated. (3) Law - MacDonald mentions the US Supreme Court but omits pressure and funding groups - NAACP, Southern Poverty Law Centre etc. (4) Science. MacDonald mentions Einstein - the whole issue of fraudulent and corrupt science is, understandably, outside his range, though he does discuss mutual promotion in science and literature - in which members of the closed group publicise other members. Incidentally he doesn't list Khazars in his index, nor does he show any doubts re 'Holocaust' and 9/11.

There are or were at one time plenty of small, energetic, fanatical groups - Plymouth Brethren, Samurai, the Scotch, Italian bankers, the Romanovs, Spaniards, Jesuits, Haitians, Protestants, Prussians etc etc. MacDonald does not I think tackle the question of: why Jews? The best guess, or at least my guess, is domination of legally-enforced paper money. If this ceased to be controlled by an undemocratic cult, they presumably would be just another fanatical group.

If you want to understand the modern world, in particular the USA, this book is an important part of the jigsaw. Incidentally, part of the counter-attack is the suggestion his book is hard to read. (The same thing was said of Arthur Butz's book). It isn't - the prose is perfectly OK. But it's slightly complicated because there are three specialist vocabularies - evolutionary, technical Jewish, and political/social science. If you can work out the meanings of 'They are groups with high levels of cooperation with strangers than with extended family members', 'African Americans are disproportionately characterized by low-investment, high-fertility parenting', 'halachic', 'advocate very high levels of immigration from all parts of the world, so that the U.S. will become ... the world's first "Universal Nation."' - then you'll be OK.

My copy, and I presume this applies in the USA too, is a somewhat pricey print-on-demand paperback, and it has to be said the book would be better with more differentiation between typefaces - the index does not have smaller print for subtopics, for instance. My copy has 1stbooks.com on the cover, a website which seems not to exist. Such are the typical by-products of censorship!
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Re: Should we talk about Jews at all ? If so, how ?

Postby NUKELIES » 21 Oct 2011 13:21

JewishChristianTruther wrote:Hello all, I am new to the site and I am confused about what this is really all about. I came here because I read about the nuclear attack on underground facilities and it being falsely reported as an earthquake so I searched for the truth on that and was reading this forum and if this is correct tell me if my ompression is wrong tell me. thank you.
I am gathering the impression that this is an anti semitac site that believes as other sites like that do, that Jews are running the show and liars and harming the world type of site, is this correct?
Because, then I read you might not want to say Jew but, powers that be or something not so implicating as if to hide the fact that you are balming "Jews" as a whole group of "bad people" in charge of things?
I really wanted to find answers about the underground being destroyed being true or not but I have this question now alos is this a Jew blaming site?
And if so or if there is that tendency here may I join in and be the voice for certain Jews which I can represent? The Jew who dares to come on here and state what I know, have been taught or have learned on my own to info share? Because, I am a unique Jew being a believer in Christ and that too may not be popular here. As in many groups the athiest or the agnostic has it! I represent a very unique stance in that I am not very gullable and do not believe everything I read or I am told. I am a truth seeker and I cannot help the way I am in that i am a truth seeker. ANd do not misunderstand me that I am a Christian because I am not a Jew because I am still a Jew and proud to be one. I may have different reasons to be proud then what is being spread around among those who hardly know any Jews. I am not proud because I come from a group of people harming the world. I am proud because I come from a group of people that are interested in saving the world. In helping the world. Not in harming a single soul in the world. A view many here may not share or believe that is how Jewish people think. I know of Israeli mentality being different then the Jew in the West. In America. There they fight for their safety each year in an ongoing defence of the land being theirs (ours). I am not a soldier over there. I was raised here in the USA. And taught to believe the land of Israel belongs to us Jews everywhere. And that we need it to survive. WIthout it the propaganda that is spread to those who ahrdly ever know a Jewish person as we are such a minority, the lies are spread as the economy fails in any place anywhere it is easy to blame the Jews.. who are the Jews? Noone in the land hardly know who or what one is even and so they believe any lie that is taught about them and the lies have grown. If you look for Jewish sounding names you might find them but, if you look for nonJewish sounding names you will find much more of them in wealthy positions in the world. The Jews are not the real enemy at all but, the scapegoat for the real enemies are something else. And never could be Jewish. We are raised to love and help not to hurt and kill. It would be a Jew who has forgetten who they are iside that would do such harm to a person let alone the entire world. It is made up that we have power or money or controll when we have less then most other groups of any religion or belief or nationality, We need Israel to be safe from the killing and the chasing from our homes. All over the world Jews have had to scatter just to live because of lies spread by haters who have no idea they are being fooled to think it is Jews fault. It is a distraction from the truth. To think it is a Jewish thing. So search harder for the truth to know how to help protect us all if that is what you want to do. TO know the truth and to be safe. As do I, also.
If I have said anything wrong in your mind tell me.Show me. Teach me. I would love to kow the truth if I am wrong. Do not think I am brainwashed and so a lost cause because, I am not. I have already accepted Jesus so was I a lost cause before? I have an open mind so tell me why I should be upset with the Jews and why I should think it would be better not to have an Israel. Which I believe helps protect America by being there so that America can have some of the Oil and power against other super powers who would have free access and controll of all the oil if America's friend Israel was not there helping the USA as she does. Am I wrong to think this way? Then tell me why I am. Teach me. Because, I know of the poor Jews and why so many are poor and so I know the rich Jew lie and I know of the flat and medium and normal sized noses so I know of the big nose lie. And I know of the generousity and the beginners of the whole charity and giving nature being a Jewish tradition so I know of the tight and cheap and selfish and theiving lie and I know the big names in Hollywood and in the Forbes list so I know the richest people and the power of Hollywood lie. Since being an insider and doing some research I have noticed many lies. The lie of Jews being behind slavery another lie.So tell me what other lies have you to teach me that I ahven't already learned to be lies aboutt he Jews. The Jews killing Christ lie. The Pope even made a world wide apology for that lie a few years ago claiming it was the Romans who Killed Jesus and stating that all the leaders of the churches should tell the truth now. SO what other lies whould I believe, Tell me. Please so I can know the truth like you think you do and if it is true I can be sorry for being a Jew as if it is my fault for being born a Jew. I will take the blame if I come from a nationality of people who did some great wrong to anyone. And I will know what I should apologize about. If I do not know how can I be sorry? Why is it a secret that only nonjews can know what is so bad about us and not us? Because, we might have proof otherwise? It is illegal to accuse in a court of law without having a chance to defend oneself. SO, if you wouldn't mind.. all of you here who knows what I should be sorry about, tell me and if I am wrong about the noses and the selfishness and the lying and the power, tell me so. Because, I want the truth always even if the truth hurts.. but, do you also want the truth even if the truth hurts?


I will entertain your accusation of "anti-Semitism," which term you spelled incorrectly, insofar as it will allow me to form a response which may be understandable to you. I am NUKE LIES, the owner and administrator of this site. I allow topics to be discussed. I believe in free speech. I believe that the topic of Judaism, and its involvements or non-involvements in world affairs, can be used to hijack forums. Although Jesus may have indirect links to nuclear bomb propaganda, I do not see how he could be considered pertinent to the subject. I would not allow Christian or Muslim fundamentalists to dominate my forum; neither will I allow superfluous discussion of Judaism to hijack it.

If you wish to discuss Judaism, you may. But remember: the purpose of NUKE LIES Forum is to provide a safe haven for those of us who wish to discuss one possibility - that nuclear bombs may not exist. Any and ALL other issues are side issues.
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Re: Should we talk about Jews at all ? If so, how ?

Postby rerevisionist » 10 Nov 2011 19:14

Out of sequence posting which started the thread.

Should we talk about Jews at all ? If so, how ?

Postby mooninquirer » 03 Apr 2011 04:31


I really think we need to decide whether we should talk about Jews on this site. Maybe we can just say "the powers that be," or some euphemism. Please, also read my last comment on the discussion board about "no satellites orbiting the Earth."

I hope this will be a very heavy discussion to get this matter over with, and it should be considered for deletion, after we air this out.

The purpose of this discussion is NOT to allow others to deflect blame away from the Jews, but to come up with ways to talk about the areas where the nuke bomb myth involves Jews, in a non-offensive manner. At the same time, we do not want to water down the discussion.

Maybe we can talk about Jews, and also not offend anyone, if we do it in good faith. In other words, without hatred and in a constructive, gentlemanly way.

For example, in discussions of the holocaust, we can take the approach stated in the manifesto of this historian : http://www.holocaustdenialvideos.com

In discussions of Israel, we can take the approach offered in the book "The Israel Lobby and US Foreign Policy" by Mearsheimer and Walt, in the last chapter, on what we should do. Some Jews realize that the clock is ticking, and Israel should make peace with the Arab world, and go back to the 1967 border, before China becomes the most powerful country in the world militarily, and will NOT side with Israel like the US does.

I honestly think that the speech " THE MYTH OF THE GOOD JEW " is constructive, and I am including it alongside these other highly cordial writers, because I believe this speech IS constructive criticism, and individual Jews should understand it as constructive criticism, and an appeal for personal improvement. Because the fact is, it is easier for an individual to change, and become part of the rest of humanity, than for a group to change itself, and welcome within its ranks the rest of humanity as equals. This CAN be done, but the Jewish religion is by its very nature extremely xenophobic.
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Re: Should we talk about Jews at all ? If so, how ?

Postby rerevisionist » 10 Nov 2011 19:15

Second and last posting by Mooninquirer into his thread---

Re: Should we talk about Jews at all ? If so, how ?

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@ rerevisionist ---- deleting this guy "yankee" is a VERY good idea. I was thinking of suggesting that you do that. The only upside to him, is that he shows that ALL he cares about is a defense of Jews, and NOT about the nuke bomb hoax. It is unfortunately further evidence of the conclusion of the speech THE MYTH OF THE GOOD JEW. Although this speech is harsh and the speaker has his standards set too high, he makes his point that Jewish ( and shills for the Jews, like Alex Jones ) "truthers," almost always want to send Gentiles on a wild goose chase, AWAY from any discussion pointing guilt toward Jews. "Yankee" wanted to say that it was CATHOLICS on the top, using the Jews as scapegoats. At least the ( probably ) Jew TVOW asked a meaningful question, " Is the nuke bomb hoax evil ? " and produced a video on the nuke bomb hoax, and brought another video to our attention ( now it is the last part of NUKE LIES by Jesse )

It is NOT my intention to denounce all Jews, and I have already praised the contribution to understanding the nuke bomb hoax by the Jews Einstein ( see my post on the discussion " Einstein's letter to FDR" ), and Lise Meitner, who repeatedly referred to SLOW NEUTRONS that would cause the fissioning of uranium. ( Later, it was determined that it is ONLY the isotope U 235 that fissions ). This is significant from the first person to explain that it was the fissioning of the uranium that caused new chemicals to appear in Otto Hahn's experiment. She should have been awarded the Nobel Prize, along with her dear friend Otto Hahn. Anyway, this brings up the contradiction of what is there in a bomb to act as a moderator to slow down the fast neutrons, since the neutrons that are released from a fissioning are always fast, as a lot of energy is released from the coulomb forces of like charge causing the fission fragments, together with two or three neutrons flying away. Lise Meitner is ALSO significant because she lived to the very ripe old age of 89 ( along with Otto Hahn), despite the fact that they worked very closely with radioactive substances for a great deal of their careers. This helps to dispel the scaremongering over the danger of radioactive material, to fuel a fear of nuclear bombs. The general public is NOT going to come in as close of a contact with radioactive matter as Lise Meitner did. We have seen A LOT of people making a lot of irrational statements after the nuke power plant disaster in Japan, in March of this year, saying things like we should move away from the West Coast of the US if we can afford to do so, because the wind has swept radioactive dust from Japan that has been detected on the West Coast.

The poster to this discussion "yankee" distorts or seems to have misunderstood the purpose of my question. I posted that question at the beginning of this forum, before it took shape. Before, we were chatting in private, in e-mails, and we discussed Jews a lot. Now, we are in a forum that will be read by the public. By this time, we have resolved that question, and I was especially concerned about not offending TVOW, who I thought was very gentlemanly, and who DID make a contribution to the nuke bomb hoax. See my discussion, addressed to TVOW in particular, in the discussion "Do Catholics Rule the World ? "

I was ALSO very worried ( and I still am ) about offending NON-Jewish people, especially science teachers, and physics professors and graduate students. I really want to welcome them, and that is also a reason I picked this avatar --- a buxom, jovial, hospitable woman with her arms open wide. This is certainly not to offend female science teachers / professors, because many women today realize that a woman does not relinquish her sexiness and even girliness just because she has also studied and contributed to science. I repeatedly have referred the documentary, which makes this point very strongly, with prominent female scientists like Madame Du Chatelier and Lise Meitner ---- type into youtube : E = MC^2 THE BIOGRAPHY OF AN EQUATION. This avatar is to illustrate the saying, probably originally by the great Nobel Prize winning physicist Ernest Rutherford, that if one really understands a principle in physics, he would be able to explain it to a barmaid. This saying also captures the idea that a discussion of physics should not be a drudgery, but a lot of fun, for BOTH the teacher, and the student. And this is ultimately WHY people decided to become science teachers and professors in the first place. Rutherford's gold foil experiment is EXTREMELY important in understanding the sparseness of the nuclei in even the most condensed state of matter, the solid state, and helpful in understanding why the physics does not support a nuclear chain reaction resulting in an explosion ( because the solid would vaporize to a gas from the heat long before the energy claimed in a nuclear explosion would take place ). This is probably why Einstein thought that nuke bombs were "much less certain" than nuke power plants, in his letter to FDR.

In my experience, science teachers, professors, and graduate students of physics realize that the relativity and nuclear fission do not combine properly with kinetic theory to support a nuclear bomb exploding ( because it would vaporize, and no longer be a required critical mass, long before the CLAIMED energy release of the nuke bomb would take place, among many other scientific reasons ). For example, in a private conversation after class, my high school freshman science teacher, who had a masters degree in chemistry, said that the critique I just gave was a VERY good point. I could see him smiling, and his eyes were moving, and I could really SEE him thinking ----- he had thought the same thing himself before, and struggled to come to terms with this contradiction. But THEN I wondered out loud to him, "what about Hiroshima ?" But he was a SCIENCE teacher ! He could not answer that question, and it was out of place for him. But unfortunately, this question NECESSARILY involves a discussion of Jews !

In order to explain WHY the history books talk about a nuke bombing of Hiroshima, we really have to get into revisionist history, which means discussing the fact that the holocaust story is mostly a hoax. And if it was possible to get the Germans to OWN the guilt of doing something abominable and gruesome like the gas chambers to kill people, lampshades, soap, etc., then SURELY it is possible to get the Japanese to have an enormous psychological relief of NOT being cowardly ( because how can a mortal soldier fight such a God-like power, such a cruel bomb ? ); to get them to play the victim ( a very coveted position, that is rarely offered to the loser in a war ), and therefore be exonerated for war crimes ( since they are the victims of a greater war crime ), and be exonerated for starting the war ( indeed, Pearl Harbor was known in advance, but without America's need to sell the nuke bomb hoax, Pearl Harbor would have been rubbed in the faces of the Japanese.)

I did not CARE so much about offending Jews, when I posted that question, because in my experience, they would not PUBLICLY criticize other Jews, and this is a public forum, so I do not expect Jews to come here and post meaningful insights about the nuke bomb hoax, without also injecting disinformation like a defense of the holocaust or a claim that the Catholics are really at the top, using the Jews as scapegoats. See my post on the topic heading "Do Catholics rule the world ? " where I also go into why it is unfortunately necessary to discuss Jews, because of the holocaust, the fact that neo-con Jews in the media and US government are pushing America to go to war with Iran, Jews dominated the Manhattan Project, Jews perpetuating the scare tactic that Israel has nuclear weapons, and will use them --- called the Samson Option ---- and Jews who dominated the Bolshevik Revolution, and therefore the former Soviet Union. This last fact is ESSENTIAL in discussing the purpose of the Cold War, and nuclear bombs being an essential scare tactic so that the general public would take the Cold War very seriously ( read the short book by Eustace Mullins, posted on this forum, under the General Discussion, History Section, titled "The Secret History of the Atomic Bomb" ). Since Jews dominated BOTH the US and the Soviet Union, the Cold War was a really a hoax or a sham story like "Professional" WWF wrestling. The purpose was so that Gentiles would strongly support a powerful, central governments in both the US and the USSR. It is Jews controlling those central governments at the top, through domination of banking, and the media. Also, the Cold War justified America's support for Israel, as an ( supposed ) ally against Soviet expansion, although Israel secretly also had an agreement with the Soviet Union. Read Jack Bernstein's books " A Life of an American Jew in Racist, Marxist Israel, " and his " My Farewell to Israel, a Thorn in the Middle East." Both of these short books can be read for free online ---- search for them on google. Another good book about Jewish domination of the Soviet Union is an interview done in the 1970s, of a Jew who really bragged and gloated ( but who also told the truth, and soon after he gave this interview, he was killed in a plane ). Search on google for the HAROLD WALLACE ROSENTHAL INTERVIEW

I did have a Jewish woman tell me, loudly, emphatically, and at point blank range, that nuke bombs are a hoax, but this was in a real life discussion group with ONLY other Jews ( see my post under the discussion "Understanding the UN and Israel," in the "Rogues" section, in which I speculate on why it was a WOMAN who told me this, since the MEN in this group knew this as well. In this post, I also praised the Jewish women Joy Davidson and Nina Hartley. Anyway, this story is important enough to repeat here as well, because I am showing why the discussion of Jews is NECESSARY in order to discuss the nuke bomb hoax ). She was very serious about that statement, and to my incredulous silence she added that Hiroshima was firebombed. What I said to her that prompted her to blurt this out in my face was my pained insistence of the STUPIDITY of having gone to war with Iraq, when at the same time North Korea was REALLY ( or so I thought ) developing nuclear bombs ! Very importantly, the other Jews ( the group had about 7 people) in the group did not dispute the Jewish woman's emphatic statement that nuke bombs are a hoax, nor did they even look surprised ! Also importantly, this was in a special discussion group for Jews who talk EXCESSIVELY with other Jews about Israel, and how they can learn to cope with the emotional stress these heated arguments cause. Really, I did not belong in this group AT ALL, and the moderators were very reluctant to let me in, but I had already paid the fee, attended introductions, and a fund raising party for a superior group sponsoring this discussion group ( Jews are NOTORIOUS for forming lots of groups and committees ), and I was able to secure the approval of the rabbi of the synagogue where this discussion took place ( and the rabbi was reluctant as well, and insisted that I say nothing in the group, but just listen ). I still get mail from Jewish groups like AIPAC, Jewish history museums, the Holocaust museum, etc., and recently I have seen a great increase in this mail. ( This discussion group was NOT affiliated with these other groups, but they must have allowed these other groups to have my name and address )

In the following long paragraph I hope to do justice to WHY these Jews thought nuke bombs were a hoax --- it must have have been the fact that Jewish war planners at the top KNEW North Korea could not possibly be developing a nuclear bomb, because otherwise they would have chosen to go to war with North Korea in 2003, instead of Iraq. The Jews in the discussion group I was in were VERY well schooled on what was going on in the world. Significantly, they must have discussed in 2002 and 2003 WHY the neo-con Jews like Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, Douglas Feith, Henry Kissinger, etc. etc. in the US, along with Ariel Sharon, Bibi Netanyahu, Shimon Peres, Ehud Barak, did NOT push for war against North Korea, which the MEDIA kept saying was developing nuclear weapons any minute now ( in late 2002 and early 2003, which was also the lead up to the Iraq war, which started in March 2003 ) Indeed, North Korean leader Kim Jong-il was on the cover of TIME on Jan 13, 2003 with missiles behind him, with a story about BOTH his RAPIDLY developing LONG RANGE missiles, AND nuclear bomb program ! There were a lot of political op-ed cartoons with Kim Jong-il, and a nuke warhead and missile, trying to get attention, while the world focused on Iraq. Indeed, THAT was the motivation for Kim Jong-il's shenanigans ---- he was blackmailing the rest of the world, so they would give him money, in exchange for halting his supposed nuclear program. And, very importantly, North Korea is a DESPERATELY poor country, in great need of oil, AND had a RECENT history of selling missiles to Muslim middle eastern countries ( in late 2001, a Spanish ship seized a ship load of missiles from North Korea, headed for Yemen, which the Bush administration had to allow to pass, because at that time, Yemen was considered an ally in the " war against terror." ) This is important, because CLEARLY, if nuke bombs were a reality, then North Korea would pose a far greater threat than Iraq to the neo-con Jews' beloved Israel --- and it was Israeli LEADERS as well who urged the US to go to war against Iraq, instead of North Korea ! If North Korea developed nuke bombs, they would immediately sell them to Iraq or Iran in exchange for the oil that they desperately need. Also, North Korea is hostile to Jews and Israel even more so than Iran. Jews are NOT barred from Iran, but all Jews have been kicked out of North Korea. In contrast, Saddam Hussein was flat on his back before the whole world, and agreed to allow UN weapons inspectors in. The Jews at the top obviously knew that the evidence of Saddams's WMD program was very thin, and for them to decide to go to war with Iraq instead of North Korea proves that they knew North Korea could not possibly develop nuclear bombs, even though they had nuclear power plants and were making such a claim. For Jews who really follow Israel with the same passion as a rabid football fan watching every game, listening to the TV discussion, reading commentary, and discussing it in real life with other Jews, the fact that so many top level Jews who ought to know what is going on, decided to ignore the "nuclear" threat from North Korea, and fight a war with Iraq, which the neo-cons knew was not developing nuke weapons, and which the neo-cons manufactured bogus intelligence to the contrary ----- all to start a war to remove Saddam Hussein, because he did not recognize Israel, and funded the Palestinians ---- this choice by top war planners who would know the truth, is very STRONG evidence that nuke bombs are a hoax.

I had another Jew ( born in America, but who became a dual citizen of Israel ) in real life asking me if I believed nuke bombs were real --- and he offered a few reasons why they might not be. This question was a PROBE to see how much knowledge I had about the world, and it came after his question to me if I believed that man landed on the moon. At the time, I said something like, " Well, uhh, sure....man landed on the moon. Why do you ask ? " He did not have the courtesy to inform me that the moon landing is a hoax. He asked these questions because I told him that the war in Iraq is a war for Israel. This was in December 2007, while GW Bush was still in office, so Israel being behind the Iraq war was not as obvious as it is today. He was floored by my knowledge, but he STILL wanted to get an advantage over me, and later on he tried to con me to allow him to steal a right of way ( similar to stealing land ). This guy is getting a lot of special treatment from the banks, and was able to acquire a lot of property without a mortgage, or even having to worry about renting them out and getting a return. So, I would say he was fairly well connected and more likely to be in a position to know these things about the world, even though he bragged that he was successful in business without having gone to college ( I think because he receives special treatment in the granting of loans and mortgages from Zionist Jewish loan officers ).

I met another Jew, a woman, who admitted in private to me that Jewish ritual murder is true ! She also was the only Jew who had the courtesy to tell me that man has never gone to the moon, because I have been asked that question A LOT of times by Jews, as a probe of my knowledge of the world. First she asked ME if I believed man went to the moon. This question was prompted by my statement that the war in Iraq was a war for Israel ( hey, WHY do you think I picked the name, "mooninquirer" ? ) She might be lonely, and have had a romantic interest in me. Her body language gave up that she knew Israel did 911, because I told her in Jan 2008, that I was worried that with McCain possibly being elected president, we would have a full scale war, possibly a nuclear war, with Iran. On the night of the day Sept 11, 2001 itself, I distinctly remember John McCain saying very solemnly and earnestly on TV that we should NOT rule out the possibility of using nuclear weapons against the country that just did these attacks. And this Jewish woman started TREMBLING ! She stuttered as she asked me, " wa wa wa was he talking about Saudia Arabia ? " Why on Earth should she care about Saudia Arabia ? This woman did not know nuke bombs were a hoax, but she was not as practiced in discussing the politics of Israel, like the Jews in that discussion group.

Anyway, I hope this clarifies why I posted that question, and especially why a discussion of Jews is unfortunately necessary, in a discussion of the nuclear bomb hoax. And I hope that people will get to see this post, even though it is on page 2 !
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Re: Should we talk about Jews at all ? If so, how ?

Postby rerevisionist » 11 Nov 2011 17:27

IAJLJ International Association of Jewish Lawyers and Jurists

Interesting to see the explicit formation of groups whose activities previously have been more or less a matter of conjecture.

This is from CODOH (Committee for Open Debate on the Holocaust). A letter from CODOH about the IAJLJ, to the German Ambassador to the USA about a promotional event in Berlin entitled Holocaust Denial and Freedom of Speech in the Internet Era November 15-19 2011.


Post by Hannover » Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:16 pm


One should first ask, what is the purpose of the International Association of Jewish Lawyers and Jurists (IAJLJ)? I see it as an attempt to influence the legal system in a way which benefits Jewish supremacist interests at the same time opposing any criticism of racist apartheid Israel. And of course, how is a lawyer a "Jewish lawyer"?

Bradley Smith states that:
... this group solicits governmental officials of good will to participate in its pseudo-educational promotional events by touting itself as "a membership organization whose object is to advance human rights everywhere." In fact the International Association of Jewish Lawyers and Jurists now has the sinister distinction of being the most militant anti-free speech group in the world. ....


Indeed, under the veil of 'human rights', this nefarious group aims to dictate policy of sovereign nations, advance legal standards to their benefit, suppress free speech, and protect mass murderers. Comments invited.

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Re: Should we talk about Jews at all ? If so, how ?

Postby rerevisionist » 25 Feb 2012 00:23

I found an online PDF file The David Project - Educating Voices for Israel. - A Burning Campus? Rethinking Israel Advocacy at America's Universities and Colleges. I won't link to it, as it may be moved - try Googling. It's an unusually barefaced thing, somewhat on the lines of Saul Alinsky's stuff.

However - does anyone have a theory which covers the way in which groups are co-opted to ally with Jews? My best guess is that paper money power is at the root of this; but there are some anomalies - I've never seen a convincing explanation of why the BBC should so consistently tell lies. Or how the Catholic Church is made to kowtow. Or how African countries are turned to garbage. Or how the 9/11 scam is so efficient. Or how filth like Kissinger is so attack-free. Or how the US military is so dumbed-down. How are these things done? How are other hierarchies, assuming they exist, corrupted and suborned?t
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Postby rerevisionist » 25 Feb 2012 13:49

Just an indication of gullibility. The following was from Ivor Catt, [quoted elsewhere on this site by rerev]someone who was involved, up to a point, in electronics and chip design and weapons design, and was a response to someone saying 'Wikileaks is a giant Zionist psyop'; I just rediscovered it--
Conspiracy theorists do enormous damage, because they deflect attention from real problems, like the AIDS Industry and the Global Warmiong Industry. They undermine the credibility of responsible dissidents like AIDS Dissidents and Anthrophogenic Global Warming Sceptics.
As a dissident myself, I feel dissidents should behave in a responsible way.
To sully dissidence in general with this anti-semitism is particularly destructive.
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