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Re: Doubts about space travel, artificial earth satellites,

Postby FirstClassSkeptic » 31 Jul 2011 11:19

Someone says these are man made structures on mars:

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Taken by NASA. They don't look convincing to me, but if they are 'mad made' it only goes to prove that the Mars pictures by NASA are really just pictures of earth.

And notice the extra redness.

https://beforeitsnews.com/story/881/780/ ... verse.html
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Re: Doubts about space travel, artificial earth satellites,

Postby FirstClassSkeptic » 24 Aug 2011 11:05

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... phere.html

A helium balloon that will take enterprising travellers into Earth's stratosphere is due to take off in just two years.

The 'Bloon' will climb to a height of 22miles thanks to a huge balloon measuring 420ft in diameter.

The five-hour experience would cost an astronomical £90,000 per person but would offer 'space tourists' the chance to glimpse the curvature of the Earth.


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Mr Lopez-Urdiales explains how the balloon would vent air after cruising in the stratosphere. A parachute would then open, bringing the pod back to Earth
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Re: Doubts about space travel, artificial earth satellites,

Postby FirstClassSkeptic » 09 Sep 2011 14:16

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... month.html

It weighs six tons, it’s spinning out of control and it’s going to plunge back to Earth sometime this month.

Nasa has warned that there’s a 1 in 3,200 chance that one of its dead satellites could hit someone when it plunges from orbit.

The Upper Atmosphere Research Satellite, or UARS, ran out of fuel in 2005 and could land on any of six continents. Most of the satellite will burn up during re-entry, but a hefty half-tonne of metal will still plummet to the Earth’s surface.


If it's really in orbit, why would it crash to the ground because it ran out of fuel? The moon doesn't need fuel to stay in orbit.
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Re: Doubts about space travel, artificial earth satellites,

Postby FirstClassSkeptic » 10 Sep 2011 00:05

According to a researcher of World War II superweapons, Nazi Germany reached the Moon first. Long before the world was galvanized by Neil Armstrong setting foot on the lunar surface on July 20, 1969 Luftwaffe volunteers orbited the Moon and briefly landed. They didn't walk on the lunar surface as spacesuits hadn't yet been invented.

This incredible tale also claims the disc-shaped space vehicle carried a Japanese officer with orders to report on the achievement directly to the Japanese Emperor, Hiro Hito.


https://beforeitsnews.com/story/1074/974 ... _1945.html

The story is interesting in parts. But mostly sounds like the sort of Knights Templar, or Catholics, or Illuminati, etc, control the world from secret places, sort of thing, only it's Nazis here.

If you look up patents on google for the conanda effect, or coanda effect. I can't remember it right. He has a patent for a flying saucer sort of thing, or at least an underwater craft. It looks like some of the drawings of this 'nazi' saucers shown in the lnked article.
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Re: Doubts about space travel, artificial earth satellites,

Postby rerevisionist » 10 Sep 2011 01:55

@FCS - I followed a link of yours, above, uncommented, and found this new Youtube by ST4RSCREAM144---

NASA's Cassini Snaps Unbelievable Picture of Saturn - No Really! It's Not Believable!!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvKUXsj2dvc

I'll put a copy of this in the fake astronomy images, where it also belongs.
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Re: Doubts about space travel, artificial earth satellites,

Postby FirstClassSkeptic » 15 Sep 2011 11:28

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... ocket.html

An article about the rocket to mars. Hefty price tag.

What's interesting to me is that two of the pictures are apparently artists paintings, and one looks like a model. Then there's one of the Apollo rocket, which might be real enough. The Daily Mail does say the one drawing is an artistic rendering. The other two don't say what they are. But the headline of the article really admits it all. By being a little sly, and not forthright and detailed about it, how many will read this and come out with the impression that the rocket already exists?
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Re: Doubts about space travel, artificial earth satellites,

Postby rerevisionist » 15 Sep 2011 13:04

Sweet Jesus, another huge fraud. Including a little capsule for 'astronauts'! I bet they're working on the scripts even now, and the computer-generated sets. Maybe they'll use computer-generated actors this time round - I can't believe many people will volunteer to front a big fraud, especially as quite a few of the moon 'astronauts' met mysterious deaths.

I noticed this on the same page of the Daily Mail: 'It will revolutionise our understanding of the universe': Most powerful telescope ever built will answer the big questions about the cosmos

Read more: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... z1Y1P39eV1


You know in book publishing, they look at the hits of say thirty years ago, and try to update them for a new generation. And films. Same, it is now clear, in fraudulent technology. Remember the Hubble telescope? If you get away with it once, why not do repeats?
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NB we're used to newspapers taking money for obvious ads. I wonder if they take money to promote frauds? If they have any sense they will charge, and not just repeat press releases for nothing. PS - Hello, Daily Mail Editor. If you haven't thought of this yet, I'll take 20%. Well, 25%. Thanks.
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Re: Doubts about space travel, artificial earth satellites,

Postby FirstClassSkeptic » 15 Sep 2011 18:00

More artistic impressions.

I hadn't thought about it like you just said: Each new device is supposed to enable us to learn all the secrets of the universe. Yeah, they just keep replaying that pitch. Like, toothpaste will attract that girl you are interested in. And so will the mouthwash.

As yet, a location for it hasn’t been decided, but Southern Africa, Australia and New Zealand are all in the reckoning.


Just say it's on a secret base and you won't have to build it at all: Put it on Google Earth, and everyone will believe it actually exists.


Sounds like the biggest waste of money since the Hadron Collider.

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Scientist wont be happy until they have bankrupted us with their follies that waste vast amounts of energy but return no practical solutions to anything.

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Re: Doubts about space travel, artificial earth satellites,

Postby FirstClassSkeptic » 28 Sep 2011 16:57

Met a man last week who said he was in the military for twenty years. I asked him what he did in there and he said he was a weatherman. I asked, why didn't they just turn on the television? He said, they didn't have that stuff back then.

He said that he had sent up weather balloons. That naturally caught my attention, and I asked for more details. He couldn't remember every detail, because it's been awhile. He said they sent them up to 90,000 feet, and tracked them with telescopes. They used the telescope to measure the altitude.
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Re: Doubts about space travel, artificial earth satellites,

Postby FirstClassSkeptic » 28 Sep 2011 22:00

The study focused on the possible effects of a particularly strong magnetic storm on the Van Allen radiation belts, the dangerous rings of high-energy particles that girdle the Earth. The belts are split into two distinct zones. The outer belt, which is made up of electrons, reaches from about 15,800 to 31,600 miles (25,500 to 51,000 kilometers) above the surface, while the inner belt, which consists of a mix of electrons and protons, reaches from about 4,000 to 8,000 miles (6,400 to 12,800 km) above. [Stunning Photos of Solar Flares & Sun Storms]

Scientists had known the outer belt could become far more intense during geomagnetic storms caused by high-energy particles spewed by the sun, such as the storm that supercharged Earth's northern lights display Monday night (Sept. 26). However, they have long thought such storms do not affect the inner belt.

Now computer simulations suggest that during a "superstorm" — which has occurred in the past and is likely to recur in the future ? the electrons in the inner belt, too, could become energized. Near-Earth radiation could then remain dramatically more intense for several years afterward.

"The increase in radiation in the inner zone may last for up to a decade and continue damaging satellites for years after a very strong storm," study lead author Yuri Shprits, a space physicist at the University of California, Los Angeles, told SPACE.com.

This radiation would damage satellites in that zone and potentially cut their lifetimes by five-sixths or more. [Related: Space Radiation to Rise for Astronauts, Airline Passengers]

"It would not destroy all satellites at once," Shprits said. "However, at least according to our calculations, a very strong storm can increase the radiation dose in the inner zone by a factor of 10, and within a few years we may lose a significant portion of the satellites that traverse the inner zone."


https://news.yahoo.com/forecast-suns-sup ... 25z;_ylv=3

Geosynchronous satellites are 23,000 miles above earth's surface, the experts say. That's right inside this higher outer belt. Why aren't the satellites destroyed or damaged in this outer belt, if they are worried that the ones in the inner belt might be damaged?
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Re: Doubts about space travel, artificial earth satellites,

Postby FirstClassSkeptic » 14 Oct 2011 22:53

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... rd-it.html

Hubble telescope captures new 'maps' of dark matter... but on this evidence, we may just have to take their word for it


I thought that head line was funny, and a little telling.

The only thing I can see in the picture is that it appears that the smaller spots are encircled around the big bright spot in the center. I wonder if this might not be the case with any random arrangement of objects.

Notice the comments. There are only a few. People explaining 'dark matter'. If you are making up something, you can give it any characteristic you want to. Very much like nuclear bombs, right?
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Re: Doubts about space travel, artificial earth satellites,

Postby Ranb » 25 Oct 2011 03:48

FirstClassSkeptic wrote:If they actually could have put a payload on the moon, and then brought it back, they wouldn't have had to fake it. Or not a living payload, anyway. I have never heard of them sending a robot to the moon to scoop up rock and bring it back. Have they?


They (Soviets) say they did it with the Luna program. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luna_program

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