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'UFO Near Nuclear Missiles' - UFOs in hoaxes

Postby FirstClassSkeptic » 30 Jun 2011 17:01

The F.E. Warren Air Force Base in Cheyenne, WY, "temporarily lost the ability to communicate with 50 of its Minuteman III missiles" while a UFO was sighted during the incident, according to statements released June 23, 2011, by Robert Hastings.
    Hastings stated that "the five Missile Alert Facilities responsible for launching those ICBMs—Alpha through Echo, comprising the 319th Missile Squadron—would have been unable to do so during the period of the disruption," according to his press release.
    The October 23, 2010, story continued to unfold.
    "This dramatic story was leaked to Mark Ambinder, a contributing editor at The Atlantic, which published it three days later. The U.S. Air Force then quickly acknowledged the problem, saying that a back-up launch system could have performed the task and claiming that the breakdown had lasted a mere 59 minutes.
    "However, the latter statement was untrue, according to two missile technicians stationed at F.E. Warren, who say that the communications issue, while intermittent, actually persisted over several hours.

    http://niburunews.com/index.php?option= ... &Itemid=28

This is one way to explain why the nukes won't work, if anyone should really try to use them.
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Re: 'UFO Near Nuclear Missiles'

Postby rerevisionist » 15 Jul 2011 17:44


Edgerton, Germeshausen, and Grier. Edgerton of MIT became a household name with frozen images made with electronic flashes. I haven't checked Germeshausen and Grier, but 'Fastax'-type cine cameras with continuous narrow bands of film and prisms to keep the image sharp must have been another expertise. Very fast shutters are less important because most objects aren't bright enough, The short film here (it may well be incomplete or 'sanitized') is a collection of scraps: it may have been made as a sales tool, or perhaps to point up areas for improvement, though my best guess is to show a selection of effects to be used in fake 'nuclear tests'. 'Lookout Mountain' may have been fed their material.
    My best guess is this company was Jewish, and kept the lid firmly closed on any speculations that nukes didn't exist, were over-rated, not dangerously radioactive, and all the rest. When I say the 'company was Jewish' I mean the entire network in which it operated: the ownership, no doubt, and critical personnel; plus the people who commissioned their material and specified what they wanted, wrote contracts forbidding discussion and keeping strict secrecy, built security systems, issued PR releases, and all the rest.
    The film is certainly ambiguous and open to several interpretations. My guess is it was a promotional demo, perhaps for overseas film units.
    Note: original format wasn't standard; playback may be better with a more elongated aspect ratio.

My youtube E G & G faked film shows a 12-minute film: Photography of NUCLEAR DETONATIONS Filmed under contract to the ATOMIC ENERGY COMMISSION by EDGERTON, GERMESHAUSEN & GRIER INC. Note that it appears not to be part of the Lookout Mountain set-up. That film may have been to display their special effects, or perhaps to rent out their skills to foreign powers. Anyway, as with other exclusively Jewish set-ups, such as the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, it must have been part of the overall Jewish control of the USA's, and no doubt of the USSR's, supposed nuclear equipment.

More or less by chance, I Googled Jews and nukes; UFOs showed up prominently. And of course it's obvious
[1] Jewish control of the media enables them to easily make up and pump out any selected subject they want;
[2] UFOs might be used to invent some scare, at any time; Orson Welles' War of the Worlds radio broadcast gave dramatic evidence of the effectiveness of scares my immediate electronic media
[3] UFO scares, released discreetly, can be used to invent security risks, and more interestingly, be used to pretend nuclear and other 'installations' are at risk—if beings from outer space are nosing around, surely the installations must be assumed to be genuine!
[4] Checking the hypothesis means casting an eye on (e.g.) notorious Jewish fraudsters like Spielberg: why would he add Close Encounters of the Third Kind and ET themes to his hoax films of 'holocaust' (Schindler's List, anti-German, anti-white (The Color Purple, Amistad and nuclear etc material? Why would Jews William Shatner and Larry King show a keen interest? Jews in control of supposed secrets no doubt leaked material; I expect UFO 'researchers' will find, to their embarrassment and annoyance, they have been fed with lies. Someone out there might like to compile a long list, which I can insert here.

UFOs: The Hoax That Never Was. (Or not yet, anyway).
The Coming UFO Hoax by Bill Cooper Youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l46n7hEtswg
makes a case for a planned hoax which hasn't taken place. Cooper claims that imitation TOP SECRET documents were surreptitiously given out here and there, including to him, so people could get a buzz from thinking they were looking at genuine secrets. (He also quotes 'Report from Iron Mountain', which was aimed at the same type of person - the mass-market paperback had a cover design with an imitation rubber stamp saying 'SUPPRESSED..'). The video quotes James Dewey in 1917, who seems to have been copying from William James, searching for a 'moral equivalent of war'. The idea was obviously taken from WW1 by Dewey; he naively seemed to think hostility to Germany was innate, and not planted in people. Bertrand Russell said the same thing later - that mankind would unite in the face of an external threat, as he thought they do in the face of an enemy. The video shows Reagan speaking to the same effect.

Nothing new there, mostly. However, Cooper enlarges on the idea that there was some sort of loose plan to invent an extraterrestrial threat. Hence the Orson Welles radio test in 1938, the secret experimental flying things, the sci fi films. So watch for the hoax! he advises.

However there are a few problems for the planners....
. [1] How the hell can you actually produce genuine extraterrestrials, with technology genuinely advanced in unimaginable ways?
. [2] Would people, in fact, unite in the face of a common threat? People may not unite! After all, in all the countries at war, plenty of people were indifferent to the war (when possible) or preferred not to get themselves killed (again, when possible) or made money out of it. During the 'Cold War', it's easy to imagine one group, the As, doing their best to negotiate with the alien newcomers to get rid of group B. Moreover, if the invaders were so advanced, they might be undefeatable; or just not interested in negotiation.
. [3] Are people really that stupid? Well... that's the easy part.

H G Wells's 'War of the Worlds' got round these problems by biological defeat of the invaders - earth's bacteria were too much for the advanced Martians. But there's a long-term problem - ideally the threat has to continue forever, so humanity would knuckle down to opposing them and never stop for other things. But it's hard to see how there could be a permanent stalemate with superadvanced creatures. Maybe large numbers of solemn meetings took place to plan the outlines? With Arthur C Clarke, Asimov, Heinlein? I wonder if Spielberg was considered (as Kubrick was actually used) as special effects man, as in ET? Unfortunately there's something strangely naive about Spielberg - look at his obviously fake 'Holocaust' stuff. A problem.

Anyway - that's my limited take on the hoax that never was.
However - who knows! Maybe it's been kept in reserve, and is about to come online - as per FirstClassSkeptic's reportage?

Here's my rationalist piece on UFOs dated 2000. (At the time I didn't know balloons were (allegedly) being floated over the USSR to collect evidence. And this may be a lie - I don't know of any reports of deflated balloons and equipment in the USSR).

. At the outset I should say that I accept the conventional view that the distances between stars are so great that space travel by 'aliens', and human beings, over such distances, is virtually impossible. Also that some objects in the sky are unquestionably 'unidentified'—especially if only one person's claim is the entire evidence. Personally, I also accept the view that governments routinely lie—at least about important things—so their claims can't be assumed to be reliable where evidence is missing. So what's going on here? Some notes... ______________________________________________
. No moving parts: when jet engines were invented about the end of the second world war, an air motor with no moving parts—or no visible moving parts—existed for the very first time. Futuristic films made before that war show planes as projections of what then existed—similar, but bigger, and with more and bigger propellers thrashing the air often somewhat like combine harvesters. I'd guess that before the invention of jet aircraft, hardly anyone could have believed in 'flying saucers', because they had no experience of a jet engine. Rockets (I think) were less important, since they were recognised as being difficult to fly inside.
. Change from 'fast' to 'manoeuvrable': an article in the Skeptic pointed out that, when flying saucers were first seen [term coined June 1947—followed by the Roswell incident in July 47], all the emphasis was on speed: this seemed at the time the important feature. Later—after planes broke the sound barrier, and rockets became better known—this seemed less spectacular, and more emphasis was put on manoeuvring—they were described as being able to hover, for example, although I think probably this wasn't as important as erratic changes in direction, since helicopters and some planes could hover. This still seems to be true: a satisfactory media flying saucer has to shift fast and erratically.
. Animal experiments: it's not very well known, despite the obvious believability, that monkeys were used as 'pilots' in experimental planes and cockpits: for one thing, they're small, and can be used in reduced-scale models; and there's less fuss if they're killed. Since they tend to be hairy, an obvious thing to do is shave them: this makes medical examination of the results easier. My own guess is that some reports of little spacemen are based on this. A hidden bug might present us with this taped conversation: Journalist: "So what did you see, Mr Redneck?" "Why, I saw a li ol' mayun." "Can you describe him?" "Why, just a lil ol' mayun, kinda hunched an wrinkled?" "Thanks. Er, you've been very helpful." "Say, that makes me feel real good." [Well, I thought it was funny. Polyphthongs suggested by Kingsley Amis.]
. If this seems far-fetched, consider that there is a well-known, possibly true, incident in the Napoleonic wars in which a monkey from a French shipwreck was hanged by seaside villagers who thought it was a French spy.
. Roswell Bomb? If the Roswell object was just a weather balloon, how could it be so misidentified at the time? Perhaps the emphasis on flying hid the possibility it might have been a bomb—perhaps a mother bomb casing, or experimental flying bomb. The attraction of this idea is that it would give a powerful motive for lying, since local people mightn't be enthusiastic about loose bombs falling around them. (There was considerable fuss when a hydrogen bomb was dropped in Spain, presumably in error, a couple of decades later). The 'Roswell Record' said Maj Gen Nathan F Twining said "Neither the AAF nor any other component of the armed forces had any plane, guided missle [sic] or other aerial device under development which could possibly be mistaken for a saucer or formation of flying disks." So the bomb theory can't be right, can it?
. Poverty of language: It's an amusing possibility that the now-standardised 'alien' (bald, big eyes etc) might just reflect the linguistic poverty of over-propagandised and under-educated people. All the short words (face, hands, eyes, nose) have their iconic equivalent in the supposed image, but the more difficult ones (pupils, nostrils, earlobes, eyelashes) have no counterpart. 'Bug-eyed' should mean having compound eyes, not just big ones. Questions such as "Did it have an exoskeleton?" or "How were the mandibles hinged?" or "Did it have adaptations for high-pressure surroundings?" are presumably excluded when 'debriefing'.
. Lack of appreciation of photography/ videography: most people have little feeling for such things as depth of field and depth of focus, and even of reflection and refraction. There have been photos presented as UFOs which were taken from inside buildings, and show reflections of lights in the windows. There are videos taken in bright daylight, with little insects on the lens (kept relatively sharp by the small aperture) moving in a way suggesting a zig-zagging craft, and others with refracted parts of objects which give erratic visual effects. This is quite apart from the much greater ease of faking pictures and videos thanks to computer editing.
. Lack of appreciation of visual perception and optical illusions: the few visual clues in the sky (especially at night) make judgement of size difficult, as anyone can see by looking at clear sky, which appears to be dome-shaped for some complicated perceptual reason. An odd example of this is quoted somewhere, I think in a book by Hynek, in which someone thought the full moon, low over the horizon, was a UFO: the moon near the horizon does seem exceptionally large. My guess is that the cylindrical flying things seen in Mexico at convenient times exploit this, and are a hoax using some ultra-high-powered centrifugally-stable rotating devices, used, as with Filipino healing, in effect, to extract money from US citizens. (What happens to the objects as they lose power seems never to be recorded). Lack of appreciation of physical phenomena. Things behave in odd ways (see for example the debunking—if we're right—of 'superfluid helium' by Phil Holland and myself).
. Another expert error is the case of 'poly-water', starting in the late 1960s, when it wasn't realised that hot glass is reactive in a way cold glass isn't, and hundreds of papers were written on what turned out to be silica solution in water (something like 'waterglass'). Another example, hardly yet known about, is the assumption that clouds are all made of droplets of water.
. Yet another example is the possibility of rolling waves in Loch Ness caused by wind starting disturbances which are reflected from the very long parallel sides of the loch. Another unexpert example: I recall being assured by a builder that he'd seen concrete burning. It's impossible that people without experience of flying objects could predict their behaviour; and it's very likely that experts will be wrong when faced with new phenomena. I doubt, for example, whether the behaviour of fly-by-wire airplanes, designed to be unstable, could be guessed at by people who'd only seen older machines.
. 'Abductions': Presumably the psychology here is similar to that of people showing 'stigmata': first there has to be a self-dramatizing (or money-making) impulse, and second there has to be a framework which isn't disprovable too easily. There's a Darwinian process by which disprovable aspects are pruned away: so it happens that people show stigmata rather than (say) attempting to walk on water or see through opaque objects—having first worked out some mechanism for causing wounds in the officially approved places. (I recall a TV presentation showing a woman secretly making a cross on the skin of her arm with bleach put on by her fingers). And similarly to show contact with 'aliens' obviously it's impossible to produce actual evidence (photos, objects) and the event has to be invisible: hence 'abductions' seem to be almost the only available outlet.
. The 'medical experimentation' fear seems to be a semi-permanent modern neurosis. Cf. for example the X Files film, which has antiquated material on AIDS despite this having been exposed years ago. However, possibly this just reflects the strength of the medical/pharmaceutical lobbies and the desire to evade other possibilities.
. Influence of films/ books/ comics: A caption under a reproduced cover of Astounding Stories comic (1935) in John Spencer's UFO Encyclopedia says: 'Those who believe that stories of abduction reported by witnesses must be literally true because there is no cultural image from which to draw the story should consider some of the early science fiction. This illustration, has all the main features of the abductions reported in the 1960s and beyond.' [Picture shows 'bug-eyed' man-like thing with pale female body on an operating table, admittedly in a stone building, while another man-like thing grips the half-dressed hero trying to save the woman.] Another caption states '.. modern day stories.. are remarkably similar to the fairy abduction stories of Celtic myth' although the text only lists 'reality distortion', time lapses, and 'changelings' as similarities.
. What's the impulse behind the belief? Is there a need to believe in superior beings, or a hope that there are such beings who might perhaps save the world? Is it a similar feeling to the belief in 'God', a transfer of parental feeling elsewhere, when parents are found to be sadly lacking in omnipotence? Maybe.
. Even your doctor doesn't have all the answers is supposed to be a pearl of US wisdom. Perhaps UFOs are an unofficial subject, in a world where knowledge is parcelled up between countless experts, or supposed experts. The now-discredited Cyril Burt quoted, somewhere, a schoolboy whose main interest in life was ghost stories. When he was asked why, the boy said "because I know more about them than the school inspector".
. Problems with Witnesses: and with their presentation. Typical (but this example was accessible only to UK people) was a 4 November 1999 BBC1 TV programme, Mysteries. This was a New Zealand case, with the unusual feature that a UFO was filmed by a 'genuine film team'. The genuine film in fact showed just a detail-less dot, which the camera operator had had difficulty focussing on; the clip only lasted a few seconds. The cameraman was not interviewed, so it was impossible even to tell whether the camera was pointing up, down, or across. And yet the eye witnesses, or actors playing them (it wasn't clear which), said for example that there was a 'large light' and that it moved up and down 'thousands of feet'.
. Purpose of blurred distinction between 'UFOs' and 'Extra-terrestrials': these things are often blurred together; many people speak of them in the same breath. And there seems to be an official movement to legitimise both (for example, Yahoo!'s site on the subject has at least nine out of ten sites in favour, in a section linking 'extraterrestrial life' with 'UFOs'. Just one example.) But, obviously, it's possible that there may be true UFOs, unidentified flying objects, piloted by people (or unpiloted), with absolutely no 'alien' connection.
. The best explanation I have is that it's a cover for testing experimental aircraft, in slightly the same way that English smugglers used to spread stories that the countryside they operated in was haunted. Thus (e.g.) Concorde and other supersonic planes have engines developed in the 1950s. You might view this as showing how slow progress has been since then—or how large progress under secrecy might be.
. The SR71 'Blackbird' Mach III spyplane, designed after the U2 incident, was designed to be so fast it couldn't be shot down. An observer interviewed on a TV program recently identified a modified refuelling tanker he'd seen, and added behind it was a black triangular craft the like of which he'd never seen. Other technologies presumably must have been tried. What new designs of flying objects may have been developed? And what for?
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Re: 'UFO Near Nuclear Missiles'

Postby FirstClassSkeptic » 16 Jul 2011 00:33

There's a fourth possibility: People won't fight the aliens because they'll ask the question,"Will the aliens treat us any worse than what we are treated by earth's ruling class now?"
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Re: 'UFO Near Nuclear Missiles'

Postby rerevisionist » 16 Jul 2011 11:47

I found another 'UFO invasion plan' website, with an actual date-

Ian R Crane, past Chair of the UK 9/11 Truth Campaign, reflects [2007?] upon UK Prime Minister Gordon Brown’s overt commitment to the agenda of the New World Order. Ian also introduces Project ZION and presents his startling prediction of what is being planned to accelerate implementation of the One World Government … a False Flag fake Alien Invasion to be staged at 2012 London Olympics.

. Crane's idea is they will use holograms - though I'm not sure he's thought this through, since they need special lighting and are static - unless they've got digitised motion by now.

I hadn't even noticed the godawful logo for this ridiculous non-event could be 2012. Nor the alternative interpretation: note the dot over the i; evidence?

Crane sells DVDs, though for my taste they're a bit expensive. Anyway, he predicts 2012 as fake UFO invasion time.

NB Crane on Israel:
But I can't do it. Whenever I try to mouth these words, a remembered smell fills my nostrils. It is the smell of *. Across the occupied West Bank, raw untreated sewage is pumped every day out of the Jewish settlements, along large metal pipes, straight onto Palestinian land. From there, it can enter the groundwater and the reservoirs, and become a poison.
. Standing near one of these long, stinking brown-and-yellow rivers of waste recently, the local chief medical officer, Dr Bassam Said Nadi, explained to me: "Recently there were very heavy rains, and the * started to flow into the reservoir that provides water for this whole area. I knew that if we didn't act, people would die. We had to alert everyone not to drink the water for over a week, and distribute bottles. We were lucky it was spotted. Next time..." He shook his head in fear. This is no freak: a 2004 report by Friends of the Earth found that only six per cent of Israeli settlements adequately treat their sewage.
. Meanwhile, in order to punish the population of Gaza for voting "the wrong way", the Israeli army are not allowing past the checkpoints any replacements for the pipes and cement needed to keep the sewage system working. The result? Vast stagnant pools of waste are being held within fragile dykes across the strip, and rotting. Last March, one of them burst, drowning a nine-month-old baby and his elderly grandmother in a tsunami of human waste....
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