CONTAGION IS A MYTH

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CONTAGION IS A MYTH

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Postby NUKELIES » 02 Dec 2011 15:27

The best way to fight AIDS is to not take prescription drugs manufactured by Glaxo and Pfizer, and other pharmaceutical companies, which are the real vehicle of acquisition of immune deficiency.

HIV ("human immunodeficiency virus") DOES NOT EXIST. The notion of a microbe which 'causes' a deficient immune system is oxymoronic. Your immune system is you. How you live - what you ingest, how much you sleep, how much you exercise, the condition of your environment - is what determines the condition of your immunity.

Mega-doses of any drug will detract from your health - whether that drug comes from the pharmaceutic industry or the street.

Africans are dying of the same diseases that they have always died from - it's just now they're calling it AIDS / HIV. Americans are dying from excessive ingestion of body-altering substances.

Cancer is also the result of over taxation of the body due to excessive consumption, which inhibits normal body maintenance and regeneration - due to bodily energy being used disproportionately to digest, process, and rid excessively consumed substances such as meat, alcohol, cigarette smoke, over-processed 'foods,' and sugars.

The vast majority of diabetes cases are also obviously self-inflicted by gluttonous consumers of starch-heavy processed 'foods.'

AIDS has nothing to do with sex or blood and is not contagious. Contagion itself is a myth. It is based on faulty 19th Century pseudo-science - Koch's postulates - which were based on experiments on cows in which severely diseased tissue was introduced into live cows which sometimes in turn got infected. But that was never proof that a given microbe can 'infect.' Koch's postulates only prove that a large quantity of bacteria can multiply and reproduce infection when introduced into a new host. The body can and does fight off normal quantities of any given microbe. The only sort of real contagion is associative condition - such as group malnutrition, group drug-taking, unclean environments affecting more than one person, sleep deprivation in common, etc. - which produce common symptoms among those affected.

Drug-pushing doctors, and their Big Pharma pimps, are the real cause of AIDS.


(I originally posted this on another site.)
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Re: CONTAGION IS A MYTH

Postby voerioc » 03 Dec 2011 11:51

Yes, contagion is a myth. Thus, immune system is also a myth. It's obviously just a garbage collector.
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Re: CONTAGION IS A MYTH

Postby NUKELIES » 03 Dec 2011 13:10

Lol - good point. I have always had trouble grasping the concept of "immune system." Is your hand your immune system when it washes your body? Yes.
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Re: CONTAGION IS A MYTH

Postby rerevisionist » 04 Dec 2011 00:58

Are you basing this on Dr William Trebing's book Good-Bye Germ Theory: Ending a Century of Medical Fraud? (I haven't seen or read this book - a comment in Amazon says editions 1-5 aren't properly proofread; edition 6 is recommended by the author). Unfortunately Amazon's online reviews are pretty useless, although they do say most of the book is on vaccination rather than 'germs'.

I'm asking because although I agree 'AIDS' is a fraud, and vaccines/immunisations are problematical, there are definite diseases caused by small animals - not necessarily bacteria. For example it seems completely established that malaria is caused by red blood cell damage by parasites - and this seems proven by the evolution of thalassaemia/ sickle-cell anaemia, where the red cells are in a form abnormal to areas without mosquitoes. Toxoplasmosis seems unquestionably caused by a transmitted parasite, apparently not always via mouth. Intestinal parasites - tapeworms, giardia lamblia, etc - definitely exist.

It's true that the 1918/19 flu epidemic was caused by wartime impoverishment, so much so that many deaths were automatically classified as flu. And there hasn't been a Black Death recently. And leprosy has shrunk since the middle ages - very likely because of better nutrition. And for that matter polio may have been caused by DDT.
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Re: CONTAGION IS A MYTH

Postby voerioc » 04 Dec 2011 08:26

Toxoplasmosis is an illness with nearly no reality. More than 90 % of infected people won't develop it. And among those who will do it, symptoms are... flue ones. The so called cysts in the brain are so small (100 µm) that it can be a pure invention. What reality has this illness ? Not any.

It's just an invented illness. They have stolen flue cases in order to give it some reality.
Inserted 17 Oct 2016: 2013 Czech article on Toxoplasmosis and behaviour change. Seems to play with the idea of the deliberate modification of human behaviour, something being looked-for in human beings, not just animals. As always, I'm sceptical, as many of these things are hard to quantify.
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Re: CONTAGION IS A MYTH

Postby NUKELIES » 04 Dec 2011 17:24

Tapeworms and other animal parasites should be classified differently than microbes. I'm not opposed to the possibility that there may be parasitic organisms that can attack the human body, but nature always balances itself, and our body protects itself and is part of nature. We'd all be dead - life couldn't exist - if the commonly accepted notion of contagion were reality. Strength would serve no purpose.

It's like the Dutch elm disease hysteria which took place in Britain decades ago. I've got an elm grove on my property in Glastonbury, and the neighbours often comment on how rare it supposedly is to have non-diseased elms in the UK. But I figure the scare 40 years ago was probably just that - a scare. The weather was probably really bad that year for elms, and they got stressed and vulnerable, or the weather might have been especially good for whatever fungi cause the malady. So the legend lives on that British elms are in danger.

Malaria means 'bad air,' 'cold' means 'cold,' 'influenza' means 'influence' (read contagion), are all self-explanatory. 'Pox,' 'tuberculosis,' 'pneumonia,' and various other diseases are merely descriptive. Even the word 'disease' connotes contagion, although it means only "lack of ease." Rerev mentioned leprosy, and that it may have something to do with malnutrition, but the dictionary states that "Leprosy is caused by the bacterium Mycobacterium leprae, which is Gram-positive, nonmotile, and acid-fast." Is it really? The word 'leper' simply means 'scaly.' What causes the scales? From the Oxford English Dictionary: [a. OF. lepre, liepre (mod.F. lèpre), ad. L. lepra, a. Gr. ??p?a, properly fem. of ?ep??? adj., scaly, f. ??p?? scale.] Although certain skin types are more prone to suffer psoriasis, it is most certainly exacerbated by and perhaps caused by consumption of dairy products.

Same thing with the bee scare that they're propagandising in the UK, and I think in the US, right now. I've never believed it - bees might be having a bad year, but the whole thing has got to a story conjured up by the climate change carbon tax Rothschild people.

I read Peter Duesberg's book "Inventing the AIDS Virus" back when it was released - a bombshell to say the least - and also interviewed him on my radio program. But most of my health-related knowledge is empirical. I've also watched videos I downloaded from Conspiracy Central tracker pertaining to cancer and other diseases. Cancer is caused primarily by a meat-heavy diet for example, as is shown in documentaries about the Gerson Institute, and can be cured by a serious fruit juice fast - I believe this because I've fasted on liquids and know how my body can restore and repair itself when given the opportunity free from being laden down by digestion.

The world is mad. I don't know why more people don't wake up to the things we have become aware of, but I'm glad the internet is allowing us to connect with the few of us who have exercised the balls to venture to escape our conditioning and confines. We may feel crazy for going against the grain, but I know there are millions of people in Europe and the Anglosphere who are opposed to vaccines. This gives me hope.
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Re: CONTAGION IS A MYTH

Postby voerioc » 04 Dec 2011 19:56

About malaria, it seems to be a simple fever caused by a combination of warm weather and effort, especially among people who are not used to heat. This is why so many tourists suffer when they go to southern countries. And when they come back to northern countries, usual cold and flue will be considered as symptoms of malaria.

If people from southern countries are supposed to die from it, this is because in those countries, you can die quite quickly from dehydration. So, someone who has fever (and thus, is sweating a lot) when the weather is very hot, will be at risk of dying from dehydration, especially babies and old people.
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Re: CONTAGION IS A MYTH

Postby rerevisionist » 04 Dec 2011 20:19

Well, the received view on malaria is that it's definitely caused by mosquito bites - Anopheles in fact - which inject parasites into the bloodstream. They are visible under light microscope in blood samples. Presumably they grow and spread. The evidence includes a researcher - Ross - receiving, in London I think, a postal packet from the tropics containing Anopheles mosquitoes which he allowed to bite his arm. After that, he got malaria. And there's the evolutionary evidence - in these areas a highish proportion of the human population has 'abnormal' haemoglobin, or perhaps abnormal red blood cell DNA, which doesn't allow the parasites to thrive in blood. This looks very much like a selective adaptation.

However, this may not be what NukeLies ragards as 'contagion', since we're talking about living internal parasites on analogous footing to tapeworms or guinea worms.
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Re: CONTAGION IS A MYTH

Postby voerioc » 04 Dec 2011 21:07

Yes, just one experiment of inoculation. Very serious.

We can notice that Ross made his discovery in 1897, a time of maximum hysteria about pathogenic microbes. A time with many adventurers disposed to make false claims in order to gain fame and fortune. Pasteur was the first one.

The idea of this parasite transmitted by mosquitoes presents some severe inconsistencies. For example, why would the contagion be limited to warm areas ? It should spread everywhere on earth. Then, fevers would have been a great problem also in northern countries. And why would mosquitoes be the only vector of the plasmodium ? It can spread from mosquitoes into humans, but it couldn't spread from mosquitoes to ticks for example ? What a convenient limitation in order to explain why you don't find the disease in northern countries.
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Re: CONTAGION IS A MYTH

Postby rerevisionist » 04 Dec 2011 22:15

Well, a convincing argument is that hot climates support a different range of life forms than colder climates. And they are more aggressive - plants grow faster, insects grow faster, long cold intervals don't occur. Guinea worm, bilharzia, yaws, tsetse flies, large woodboring insects, termites, carnivorous plants, Chagas disease are tropical. So it's presumably possible that the life-cycle of small creatures that can live in blood needs a hot climate. You don't address the issue of sickle-cell anaemias.

I have to say though, considering malaria is supposed to be very dangerous, it seems odd that the fastest growing human populations are in malarial areas - but maybe this reflects anti-malarial drugs?
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Re: CONTAGION IS A MYTH

Postby NUKELIES » 05 Dec 2011 01:55

voerioc wrote:About malaria, it seems to be a simple fever caused by a combination of warm weather and effort, especially among people who are not used to heat. This is why so many tourists suffer when they go to southern countries. And when they come back to northern countries, usual cold and flue will be considered as symptoms of malaria.

If people from southern countries are supposed to die from it, this is because in those countries, you can die quite quickly from dehydration. So, someone who has fever (and thus, is sweating a lot) when the weather is very hot, will be at risk of dying from dehydration, especially babies and old people.


That is exactly what I realised during my first trip to India in 1996. I was trapped all night in a hot hotel room filled with biting mosquitos under a noisy whirling fan. I couldn't drink enough water - I ran out of it. I had to keep the balcony door open. As I lay there suffering, I realised that that was malaria.

it seems odd that the fastest growing human populations are in malarial areas - but maybe this reflects anti-malarial drugs?


That presupposes readily available anti-malarial drugs for everyone - a logistical improbability.

It should spread everywhere on earth.


This is true of every supposedly "contagious" disease - if they were contagious we would essentially all have them! We couldn't survive - we would never get off the ground in the first place. It's all about strength - if you keep your body healthy and strong, then that means you've created a balanced system with no opportunities for scavengers to become a plague. Most infections are opportunistic - taking advantage of already existent imbalances. Nature ultimately has to be symbiotic - yet another meaning of the symbol of the caduceus and of the Seal of Solomon.

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The origin of the word 'contagion': late Middle English (denoting a contagious disease): from Latin contagio(n-), from con- ‘together with’ + the base of tangere ‘to touch.’

So we're dealing with a medieval word to describe filth-transfer amongst people who believed that bathing was a sin - of course they were sick!
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Re: CONTAGION IS A MYTH

Postby NUKELIES » 05 Dec 2011 09:56

Following are my responses on another forum pertaining to the original post in this topic:

So the horrific death rate of HIV positive sub-Saharan Africans without access to anti-retroviral treatments is due to????


I've already addressed this, and it proves you are not reading my posts, but still continue to harass me with unfounded accusations. I shall deign to humor you with an answer: Africans are dying of the same diseases they have always died from, but these old diseases are now being labelled AIDS.

And compared to the much longer life expectancy of first world HIV positive Americans/Europeans on anti-retroviral treatments is due to????


I shall overlook your substandard use of English and condescend to respond to your inane inquiry: Hypothetically speaking - as your claims have no scientific or empirical backing - Americans and Europeans who are consuming so-called "anti-retroviral" (a double oxymoron in itself) drugs are, again hypothetically, living longer than their African counterparts because Africans in general have a much shorter life expectancy than Americans and Europeans (I believe the word you are evading is "Caucasian."), and readily die of various diseases which are now blanketed under the misnomer AIDS primarily for eugenic and commercial purposes.

And thank you for wishing that I would die of AIDS - it really shows how deeply your head is stuck. In spite of the fact that my risk of contracting AIDS is vanishly small.


Dude - "vanishly" is not a word. This is the second time I've corrected you on this. Please refrain from using it.
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