Free Speech, the Internet and Holo­caust Revisionism

© Rae West 1997, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2012, 2013, 2016

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Summary: This is the text of a long talk I gave on 12th Oct 1997 at Conway Hall, in Red Lion Square, London, with a few additions. It was printed in the ‘Ethical Record’ in my heavily-edited form, from which however the conclusion was omitted. It's online here Ethical Record, December 1997. It was based on Internet research, supplemented by cross-checking where possible with books and other documents published in the 1940s and 1950s. (Cf. the notes at the end). I had naturally assumed the revisionist case was nonsense, but being aware of the possibilities of systematic lying (cf. e.g. official downplaying and evasion of Vietnam War Crimes, also on this website—just one example) I considered I had an obligation to look into it. Where the information surprised me, in the sense of being diametrically opposite to the convention, I’ve flagged it, throughout this text. The conclusion I came to was that the ‘Holocaust’ was a largely or completely manufactured story.—Rae West

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Thanks to you all for coming. This is a complicated subject and I’ll do my best to do it justice.

Let me start with an account:

‘According to the New York Times of October 3, 1965 there have been.. 170,000 civilians killed; 800,000 maimed by torture; 5,000 burnt alive, disembowelled or beheaded; 100,000 killed or maimed by chemical poisons; 400,000 detained and tortured savagely. One method of torture used by the American troops is partial electrocution or ‘frying’ as one United States Adviser called it—by attaching live wires to male genital organs or the breasts of Vietnamese women prisoners.’

‘Already 8,000,000 villagers are living in the 6,000 hamlets so far completed.. with bamboo fences, barbed wire, and armed militiamen.’

What’s the relevance of that? We’ll see later.

On the principle of ‘telling them what you’re going to tell them’, this is what I’m going to say:
      First, some comments on Internet, since this is the source of this talk. I should make it clear I’m not obsessed by this topic and indeed only became aware of its existence a month or two ago. Many of the things said came as a surprise to me, and I’ll flag these during my talk. I’ll also supplement Internet with a few publications, of the sort readily available in second-hand bookshops.
      Then some comments on free speech and the issues surrounding it, including technology. This is apparently a well-worn theme and I’ll try not to be too banal.
      Then I’ll survey revisionism as a concept, and home in on holocaust revisionism, looking first at the types of revisionists.
      Then I’ll go into detail as to the personalities involved, first the revisionists, then the anti-revisionists.
      I’ll have to look at the Nuremberg Military Tribunal, and try to summarise the evidence brought by revisionists and by anti-revisionists.
      I’ll end with political and historical comments (some addressed specifically to the left.)

The Internet
On Internet, opinions vary; Christopher Hitchens said it’s been tremendously oversold, you’ll get oligopolies and the same consumerist hogwash; he likes print. (Since writing that, it appears Hitchens knew for years he was a 'Jew'—and not likely to advertise the liberation from Jewish lies of Internet). John Pilger said ‘look to see who controls the Internet; the American government and multinationals.’ I ought to point out that, in fact, it’s quite difficult to use; skilled computer people can store downloaded text on their computers for use later, but unskilled ones find this difficult; in my view, the promotional campaigns of the BBC’s ‘Computers Don’t Bite’ type are dangerously misleading; I’ve seen adults go into rages of frustration trying to work these things. There are dangers of losing all one’s work, and so on. In practice, most users seem to belong to institutions—typically students or employees who offload the costs onto their organisations. Many sites are maintained not by the people whose names appear there, but by associates or friends or whatever. Incidentally you’ll often be told that the quality of the material is very poor. In my opinion this isn’t true—the medium is purely verbal, there’s no way of making your points other than through well-chosen words, and the standard is generally not at all bad, though of course much of it is repetitive and rather silly. Incidentally many people don’t know there’s a subset of Internet called Usenet, consisting of thousands of interest groups, a bit like special-interest magazines.

Free Speech
On free speech, the amazing thing really is that such an ideology exists at all. You might expect any group having achieved some sort of dominance to oppose free speech, and generally this is true. Roughly speaking, without straining for precision, you might divide a population into well-off & poor, and also into intelligent and not intelligent; this gives four types, of which only two are likely to be interested in free speech; and of these, established people generally can’t be expected to favour free speech—King George V said ‘people who write books ought to be shut up’. That was his contribution to culture. Many important intellectual changes have therefore only been introduced by the intelligent not-well-off, for this reason; I’m thinking for example of Faraday. This is the pragmatic argument for free speech; something useful might come of it. But in practice free speech is something of a dead letter—and I’ll give this organisation as an example! So far as I know, in its 100 years, nobody at South Place has ever spoken on the financial resources of the Church of England. [Or of course the Talmud, and Jewish issues]. With critics like that, establishments can rest easy.
      This sort of thing of course isn’t anything special; for example, democracy is more of a slogan than a reality; ‘free trade’ is generally a cover for the expansion of strong economies, and there’s an analogy with free speech, which may be a cover for pushing pornography or Hollywood tripe or what not.
      Many of the theoreticians of free speech are more restrictive than is generally realised; Milton’s Areopagitica , at least according to Chomsky, advocates licensing of books rather than anything that would normally be considered free speech. John Stuart Mill would not (e.g.) allow the view that Queen Victoria should be assassinated, even by someone conscientiously convinced that it would be a good thing. So generally free speech is conceived in rather vague terms, and I think it’s fair to say nobody has come up with a theory to adequately deal with it. As a problematic issue you might take secrecy of banking, which seems more secure even than government, where there are at least 30 or 100 year rules on documents allowed to survive; but banks have no obligation to publish papers (as far as I know). And in practice censors don’t take a theoretical line; they just cut out anything that might be tricky.
      One of the most important determinants of free speech is technological change; for example the Arab world had not one single printing press until the 1880s. In Britain, the Levellers broke up the Stationers Company monopoly, partly because printing was becoming easier. Similarly there’s a widespread belief that the Dutch were valuable in the 17th century, as permitting the publication of books banned in Britain and elsewhere. In my view this is probably a mistake—if you consider Dutch printers, they had the capacity to print books, but demand in Dutch of course was limited. So an Englishman with a bag of gold wanting 200 copies of a book on how terrible the Archbishop of Canterbury was would be an attractive proposition. Something similar appears to be the case with Internet; providers of it want to make money—or, if I’ve read the press aright, in most cases, want to lose less of it.
      Technology is also important because the most up-to-date type looks reliable. About the time of the first world war, I’ve read, English people believed newspapers were ‘as reliable as encyclopaedias’, and this must have been a factor in promoting the war. Later, radio was the thing, and one finds for example Bernard Shaw, when he wasn’t writing in his garden shed, listening to his radio most of the time. This attitude still exists in some elderly people, who imagine the 1 o’clock BBC news to be the apex of accurate communication.

Revisionism as a Concept
Right. Let’s look at revisionism as a concept. As far as I know the word originated with Marxism, Bernstein starting the revisionist movement of the German sozialdemokratisch movement. Lenin wrote on this disapprovingly in (or before) 1908. There are no doubt religious revisionists too, considering e.g. whether Jesus Christ ever existed. But by now it’s extended into very many fields; in history journals I’ve found ‘revisionism’ applied to the Merovingians, Danes, and 19th century Wales. If we consider WW2, we find what we might call left-wing revisionists who point e.g. to Standard Oil of New Jersey, which seems to have supplied Germany with oil through the war, or Opel (the German branch of General Motors) making German armoured cars; I might quote Tony Benn:—
      “I think it’s time we did a bit of reexamination, you know, of the 1930s and got away from the idea that the British government believed in appeasement. They didn’t .. appease Hitler. They supported Hitler. They backed Hitler. .. captured German foreign office you’ll find that when Halifax went to talk to Hitler on behalf of the British government the first thing he did was to congratulate the German chancellor on having destroyed communism in Germany, and acted as a bulwark against it in Europe. And the whole of that 1930s period was a period when western governments were happy to use fascism in order to destroy socialism in all its forms, not just in Russia but in the west as well. ...”
      Revisionists also look at the entire basis for war: Robert Blake, the Disraeli biographer, ‘Why Britain Went to War’:—‘It would be nice to say that Britain fought for ideals—democracy, freedom, the rule of law etc. But it would be untrue. Britain fought because government and people believed that its existence as a great imperial power was threatened.’ In America, Gabriel Kolko was, or should have been, very influential, on the American Empire.
      Now. Until recently I’d more or less ignored what I’d thought of as right-wing revisionists. In fact, at least on the Internet, the word ‘revisionism’ now applies only to holocaust revisionism. For example, there’s a Usenet site called alt.revisionism devoted entirely to this topic.
      However, I’ll look at the various distinctive people and groups which you find if you search using the key phrase ‘holocaust revisionism’ or ‘revisionist’.

Holocaust Revisionists’ Beliefs
First, for orientation purposes, I’ll try to summarise what the revisionists claim in common, the subset of beliefs that more or less unite them. These are actually fairly simple: the claims are that a deliberate extermination policy of Jews didn’t exist, that gas chambers are a myth, and that although lots of Jews died, the deaths weren’t proportionally more than other groups; Czechs, Poles, Ukrainians, Russians, various Baltic peoples; a quarter of all British merchant seamen. Those are the key beliefs, but of course, as you appreciate many other issues get brought in. Many of these issues are very well-established taboos indeed, but, as we’re in a sort of temple of rationalism, I’ll list a few which seem important; (i) that Jews actually are descended from Jews, (ii) that Jews took no special part in the Bolshevik revolution, (iii) that Judaism is a fundamentalist/racist ideology. Thus for example E H Carr’s series of books on the Bolshevik Revolution, which came out from the 1950s, has virtually no mention of Jews, despite purporting to be serious history; it’s rather like discussing former Yugoslavia without mentioning Moslems and Christians.

Types of Holocaust Revisionist
The next section is the longest; I’ll look at the most important revisionists, at least as far as I can judge by their Internet presences. First let’s see the motivations. There seem to be about ten categories: Some seem purely anti Semitic, for example posting more or less selective lists of what famous people have said about Jews—Voltaire, Henry Ford, George Washington, Mark Twain. Some are anti-Zionist and/or pro-Palestinians. There’s a group called Radio Islam of this sort; I’ll talk more about them later. Some are German-extraction Americans; I recall reading in a paper that a third of all Americans in the US claim German ancestry (whatever that means), and such people have a motivation of course for not being anti-German. There also seem to be white Russian or Polish types who consider Bolsheviks were Jewish, some of them Catholics (cf. Hilaire Belloc, the Roman Catholic who wrote his book
‘The Jews’ in 1922). There are anti-Communists, laying stress on Stalin’s crimes rather than Hitler’s. There are miscellaneous types including for example Protestant fundamentalists, blacks like Louis Farrakhan, and other black Americans, quite a few of whom seem to dislike American Jews, and also whites who think their power is slipping. It may seem strange to think of the 1930s or 1950s as a golden age, but then US cars led the world, the blacks were kept in their place, and so on. Another site is Michael A. Hoffmann II, who looks among other things at neglected aspects of history like white slavery in the US. There are groups who consider fairly taboo second world war issues, such as the connections between Zionism and the Third Reich. Common sense suggests there must be Polish or Hungarian or South African groups and others, but if so they’re not on Internet, or not much.
      And there are, I presume, genuine truth-seekers, who are interested in truth in history, who might or might not be in some of the previous groups. I’ll concentrate on what I take to be people of this sort.

And here we come to my first surprise . Namely how old all this is. The first revisionists appeared at the same time as the Nuremberg tribunal which started in November 1945 and ended in 1949, producing 22 volumes of official transcript. Recently I was told (by a researcher into 'AIDS') that she’d heard the holocaust described as a myth in the mid-1970s, by an American, on a journey on the trans-Siberian railway. My second surprise is how industrious some revisionists are—many have been doing this for years. E.g. the Swede Ditlieb Felderer says he has 30,000 slides, some in infra-red, taken at all the concentration camps. The Frenchman Faurisson seems to have spent years following up reports and interviewing, or trying to interview, people. Another example is David Irving, the self-trained document historian, who has amassed mountains of documents and has a card index of 10,000 separate items, arranged by date, so he can see what happened on any date he’s interested in. Perhaps more cards by now. However I should add that Irving doesn’t claim to be a holocaust revisionist, strictly speaking; the holocaust appears as something of a side-issue in his work on original documents. However, with that proviso, I’ll include him here since his work on the biographies of e.g. Hitler, Churchill, and his book on Goebbels, which seems to have been banned, is so relevant. He is somewhat looked down on by some holocaust revisionists as late as 1977 in ‘Hitler’s War’ he believed in the holocaust.

Internet Revisionists: Survey by Countries
The first name I’ll mention is Professor Paul Rassinier, a Frenchman, now dead, who was in concentration camps for much of the war. Depending on your taste, he was a socialist who turned to fascism after the war, or a socialist who didn’t believe accusations being made against the Germans and published quite a few books on the subject. So far as I’ve found out, his first book was 1949 Le Mensonge d’Ulysse, and the only one translated into English was The Drama of the European Jews, trans 1975 by Harry Elmer Barnes, a sociologist from Chicago university. He also wrote on the Eichmann trial.
Fabius-Gayssot Law
Cartoon from
2nd Holocaust international cartoon exhibition in Teheran, Iran. By Zeon, of France. The cash register, surmounted by a model of part of the Auschwitz-Monowitz complex, has 'SHOAH BUSINESS' on its drawer, with the '6 000 000' figure (not the far higher cash sums extorted), with LOI FABIUS-GAYSSOT on its keys.
      Rassinier (and another man, Bardèche) seem to have started what I might call the French school, which includes Robert Faurisson (of Lyons—the man whose book had a preface on free speech signed by 100 people, including Chomsky, and for which act Chomsky received endless attacks. Chomsky incidentally said he never read the book and didn’t know anything in detail about the subject, though he accepts the mass killing idea). Rassinier influenced Faurisson, according to Faurisson, by replying in detail to Faurisson’s letters when anti-revisionists were evasive. And also Roger Garaudy (described as an ex-Marxist ‘theoretician’, now a Catholic) [Several people have pointed out to me he converted to Islam-RW]. Incidentally in France under the Gayssot-Fabius law, passed in 1990, it is a criminal offence "to contest by any means the existence of one or more of the crimes against humanity as defined by Article 6 of the Statutes of the International Military Tribunal, attached to the London Agreement of August 8, 1945, committed either by the members of an organization declared criminal in application of Article 9 of the same Statutes, or by a person held guilty of such a crime by a French or international jurisdiction."
      Faurisson is a literature professor (I’m not sure what that status means) whose writings don’t in my opinion read very well in English, paying minute attention to documentary oddities. However I think he claims to be the first person to assert that gas chambers were a myth.

There’s no German school—in Germany and Austria the entire topic is banned under a law apparently passed by Hitler. So far as I gather this law prohibits any discussion of the holocaust, which is simply stated to be a historical fact. However, there are isolated Germans, including Wilhelm Staeglich (a judge who published The Auschwitz Myth in 1979 in German), Udo Walendy who has published on what he says are fake photos, and several historians of the second world war.

Satire based loosely on Charlie-Hebdo The English revisionists seem rather unimportant (Note Jan 2015: I may have underestimated Douglas Reed] as regards original work; the book ‘Did Six Million Really Die?’ (1974—added 2012: 5th edition, 2011, revised, updated, and expanded, is published by though it is not stated whether the original author(s) were responsible for the added work) was originally published pseudonymously, by ‘Richard Harwood’ but apparently by a London University graduate called Verrall & others. It was reviewed by Colin Wilson, who’s mostly an ‘occult’ writer, in Books & Bookmen in the same year, causing months of controversy. It is mostly translated from French sources, I think. Another man I’ll mention is Dr Russell Burton, a medical doctor who was in Belsen in 1945 and wrote an article in something called Purnell’s History of the Second World War, in which he maintained the deaths were caused by intense overcrowding—53,000 people in a camp designed for 3,000—and typhus. Burton is not, or was not in 1988, a revisionist in a sense; he accepts the usual figure for Jewish deaths but not I think gas chambers.
      [Note added Sept 24 2013: the book starts with a complaint to the effect that Britons opposing the immigration of aliens into Britain wanted to kill them! This seems part of Jewish methodology in addition to fake claims of persecution. Very likely it reflects Jewish attitudes, since the Talmud and other material explicitly calls for killing of Christians and others.]

As regards USA, because of the important part played by the US in the Nuremberg Tribunal, and doubts about them emerged quite early on. 1947 to 1951; we’ll look at this later. There were several books (one published anonymously but apparently by David Hoggan, 1969, and one by Austin App, 1973) but the most important known to me is Arthur Butz, a chemical engineer [in fact I'm told a professor of electrical engineering and computing - RW], who published with an obscure publisher The Hoax of the Twentieth Century in 1975, his methodology being to order original documents through US inter-library loan systems. He has a lot of material involving American politics. Butz has an Internet site, but his book is not available on his site, perhaps because he’s still selling it. His chemical engineering background enabled him to take a long look at the technical side of Auschwitz as a manufacturing plant, the sort of thing which historians generally are unable to do. So far as I know, no legal action has been taken in the U.S. over this.
      Incidentally my third surprise is the obscurity of almost all the people involved in this dispute, in the sense that very few are official historians, on either side. You might imagine that the supposedly heavyweight historians, e.g. Alan Bullock or Trevor-Roper (Dacre) or Hobsbawm, would weigh in from their supposedly Olympian heights, since the received impression is they have enormous amounts of evidence which they could easily produce. You might imagine this, but it doesn’t happen.

From the viewpoint of Internet users, Canada has one of the largest sites; this is because of Ernst Zündel, a naturalised German born in 1939 who has a site called the ‘Zundelsite’ in Toronto. This contains the complete text of ‘Did Six Million Really Die?’ (which Zündel started to distribute in 1980) and also a trial transcript, the outcome of two trials of Zündel in 1985 (7 weeks) and 1988 (four months). This incidentally is about the same time as Mordechai Vanunu’s abduction, and imprisonment in Israel. The suit seems to have been brought by Sabina Citron of the ‘Canadian Holocaust Remembrance Association’ and Simon Wiesenthal. The second trial transcript is available on Internet; it has five major testimonies, each about 400K long, that’s about half the length of a novel like say Lord Jim , each. There are other shorter testimonies too. The two main prosecution witness were Christopher Browning, an American professor of history, and Raul Hilberg, b 1929, a prolific author on the holocaust; the three main defence witnesses (judging by length) were Faurisson and Mark Weber, I presume a German-American, and David Irving. Another significant witness was Fred A. Leuchter, an American designer of execution equipment, including gas chambers, for which there seems considerable demand in the USA. At this point I register surprise #4 : amazingly, there seems never to have been any official technical examination, or even description, of the gas chambers.
      I had intended to include part of Raul Hilberg’s cross-examination, in dramatised form, to give you a change from my voice, but there seems not to be time for this. However, I found it surprisingly unimpressive; for example Hilberg admitted he’d never been to any of the concentration camps except on a day-trip or two. The impression I received from this trial of Zündel was that it went wrong from the prosecution point of view, somewhat in the way the McDonald libel trial twisted out of their control.
      Zündel was found guilty on both occasions and I think jailed. He is provocative, though whether as a cause or effect I don’t know. His site has a logo of a white circle on red, with the letter Z at an angle, unmistakably resembling half a swastika in perspective. Since he is or was a commercial artist, I presume he designed this himself.

The other large Internet site is ‘Radio Islam’; I’m not sure if it actually has a radio broadcasting branch. It seems to be based in Sweden. It includes holocaust revisionism as a subset, but has other material, including the complete text (with map) of Arthur Koestler’s 13th Tribe , which more or less for the first time popularised the idea that the Khazars, a tribe or group living north of the Black Sea and the Caspian were converted to Judaism from above by their Khan in about 750 AD. This is not an original idea of Koestler’s, but brings together the work of many obscure scholars e.g. Paul Erich Kahle in a popular essay, but written in a longwinded style with many digressions which makes the message difficult to decipher. In effect, he says European Jews aren’t racially Jews at all. I once wrote to Jonathan Sacks, the chief Rabbi, about this, and received back a book review, beginning unpromisingly by comparing Koestler to a crab with two giant claws. Anyway this theory can be assumed to be viewed with Rabbinical disfavour. Radio Islam also has Roger Garaudy’s Founding Myths of Israeli Politics, 1996, more or less banned in France, although it was published by Le Vielle Taupe (‘The Old Mole’). Other topics include: ADL (anti-Defamation League)’s suspected links with Mossad. Deir Yassin massacre 1948 and other massacre accounts. Marlon Brando saying Hollywood is run by Jews. Unflattering things on Zionism. Wannsee Conference of 1940 which it says is a fabrication, little more than a sheet of paper without authentication of any kind. It also less accountably has the ‘Protocols of the learned elders of Zion’ (the basis of Norman Cohn’s very disappointing book 1967 book ‘Warrant for Genocide’.

Other sites include: CODOH (Committee for Open Debate on the Holocaust) PO box in California, Campaign for Radical Truth in History (Michael A. Hoffmann), Institute for Historical Review (California). Also someone called Greg Raven—there seems to have been a lot of behind the scenes manoeuvring in these organisations. Another group is called the Adelaide Institute but they seem a bit elusive. I haven’t been able to find much out how they are funded.

Well, that’s our survey of the revisionists. Let’s now look at the anti-revisionists, though not all would call themselves this. Their opponents call them ‘exterminists’. As I said before, the surprise really is how obscure these people are. There’s one main organisation, called Nizkor, N-I-Z-K-O-R. This is by far the most important; others include skeptics group, of the sort typified by James Randi and CSICOP, the people who investigate the paranormal but perhaps sensing there’s limited scope in astrology and spoon-bending have branched out into e.g. medical topics (getting into deep water as shown e.g. in Martin Walker’s book Dirty Medicine ) and, as here, holocaust revisionists. The main person here is Michael Shermer, who has posted an article on David Irving. I won’t say anything more about him as his work is derivative. Incidentally there’s a UK magazine more or less on this topic, called Searchlight , from which I fairly recently heard a speaker discuss whether there should be a law in Britain against holocaust revisionism. The specimen copy I bought dealt with pop music and Nazi imagery. I think the title might be a riposte to Spotlight , published by ‘the Liberty Lobby’. I’ve heard it suggested it’s an MI5 (or is it MI6?) production, admittedly from a not very good source. However, as I say, Nizkor is the main anti-revisionist Internet group, so I’ll concentrate on them.

Several names appear relating to Nizkor, Daniel Keren, Jamie McCarthy, Ken McVay, who seem to be full-time employees; I’m uncertain even if the names are genuine. I don’t know whether they claim any originality. As an example, Ken McVay posted on the ‘Institute for Historical Revisionism’ e.g. this was founded in 1979 by Lewis Brandon, who in 1975 founded Britain’s National Party. Someone called Willis Carto is connected with it, who funds it, founded ‘the liberty lobby’ and whom McVay describes as ‘by far the most successful and influential American anti-semite of the 1970s.’)

I repeat that most of these people are somewhat obscure. The next three I’ll discuss are all French: a Nizkor site called ‘Hatewatch’, which conflates revisionism with skinhead and racist violence, neo-Nazis, and similar topics, leads on to three essays by Pierre Vidal-Naquet, Nadine Fresco, and Lin Collette. Pierre Vidal-Naquet’s essay is in English translation ‘Assassins of Memory’. By coincidence, I came across him in a book by Peter James, the chronology revisionist of the ancient world; Vidal-Naquet is a classicist in the traditional Greco-Roman sense and his 1987 article has references to the Peloponnesian War, Sparta, George Grote, Thucydides, as well as Algeria and the post-war French group Socialisme ou Barbarie. He says there’s ‘nothing more common in history, more sadly banal, than massacres’. I couldn’t find much in the way of direct argument here. Nadine Fresco’s 1990 article is ‘The Denial of the Dead: On the Faurisson Affair’. She seems to be a journalist on Les Tempes Modernes. This is mostly on Faurisson and Chomsky with excursions into French authors. Both these authors quote Johann-Paul Kremer, a doctor at Auschwitz, who however so far as I can find seems to have given testimony to both Nuremberg and Polish communist courts and to have subsequently retracted some of it before being hanged.
      The third of the three Hatewatch essays is by Lin Collette, called ‘Encountering Holocaust denial’. She is or was described as a doctoral candidate in religious studies at the Union Institute, Cincinnati. Her article deals with whether an advert should have been placed by Bradley R. Smith of the Committee for Open Debate on the Holocaust in student newspapers. She discusses the Ku Klux Klan, American tolerance, and so on.

Perhaps more impressive is Deborah Lipstadt who wrote a 1993 book Denying the Holocaust: the Growing Assault on Truth and Memory. She’s in the ‘Dorot chair in modern Jewish and Holocaust Studies’ at Emory University, which is in Atlanta, Georgia. This book is much reviewed on Internet; I found about eight reviews. Incidentally David Irving is involved in a libel case with her and Penguin books, what he calls her ‘odious little tract’, and her books are stocked, Irving’s not, by Waterstones [a British bookstore chain]. Her book isn’t on Internet and I’ve only been able to find scattered quotations there.

In a way of course they hardly need to put material on the Internet, as there’s a huge array of holocaust literature; here for example is ‘The Scourge of the Swastika’ by Russell of Liverpool, which was marketed almost like pornography; (1954), ‘The Nuremberg Trial’ by Ann & John Tusa (1983), ‘The Battle for History’ (1993) by John Keegan.
      There are countless books of a rather vague derivative type, mostly based on the Nuremberg trials, by such authors as
George Steiner ('literary critic'), Bruno Bettelheim ('psychoanalyst'), Gerald Fleming (a German who was invited to read the newly-opened Polish & Russian archives, but was something like an assistant in the audio-visual department in the linguistics department at Surrey University, not a historian at all.)
      There are also what are, or may be, memoirs, such as Elie Weisel (writer), Primo Levi (chemist) who’s now dead. Quite a few memoirs have been written many years, ten or twenty or more, after the events in them. ‘Médécin Auschwitz’ Miklos Nyszli 1953, ‘Kommandant at Auschwitz’, supposedly the memoirs of Höss, came out in 1958; Olga Lengyel ‘Five Chimneys’ in 1959.
      Raul Hilberg, main book 1961, The Destruction of the European Jews .
      Martin Gilbert (e.g. biographer of Churchill—his book doesn’t mention the fact that Churchill’s mother was Jewish, as appears to be the case), assisted with this 1995 booklet, ‘A History of the Holocaust’.
      Leon Greenman who spoke here in 1994.
      And of course there’s a huge fictional output—the Odessa File, to Schindler’s List.

Five Revisionist Disputes
That’s something like the personal line-up you’ll find on Internet; if you look at it, you’ll recognise most of these names. Now I want to turn to the actual claims made by revisionists, in a fairly brief but I hope accurate way. I’ll take five subjects: the meaning of ‘final solution’, problems with the Nuremberg trials, the issue of fake documents and photos, the problem of population figures, and the gas chambers. OK. Here we go.

      1. ‘Final Solution’
      What does ‘final solution’ mean? There are endless debates reminiscent of A J P Taylor’s remark that the question perhaps was what was meant by a ‘plan’. For the sake of brevity I’ll confine myself to the word ‘endlosung’. This was used in many German documents and speeches; nobody disputes this. Unfortunately its meaning seems to be ambiguous and also to have changed over the years. It could mean extermination; but it could mean uprooting. The revisionist view is that ‘final solution’ meant expelling Jews from Germany; they seriously considered Madagascar as a destination. According to David Irving, Eichmann went to Palestine in 1939 to negotiate with Zionists there for a removal. Revisionists support this by asserting that throughout the war Germany was willing to do deals sending Jews out. There’s a suggestive comparison I might make with the with miners recently; no one suggested killing them; the object was to make them unimportant in power terms. David Irving seems to have been the first person to definitely assert that Hitler never issued a command with an explicit word like ‘kill’. However it’s important to realise that the Nazis regarded the Soviet system as Jewish-run; when they invaded the Soviet Union on June 22nd, 1941, they were accompanied by battalion-size units of Security Police and Security Service. These units, called ‘Einsatzgruppen’, had explicit instructions to kill ‘commissars and Jewish Bolshevik chieftains’

      2. Problems with the Nuremberg and International Military Trials
On Nuremberg, and this is another of my surprises, number 5 , it’s disconcerting to find evidence that the best-known and most horrifying confessions, the damning ones, seem to have been obtained only with torture. I asked my elderly father what he could remember about the news treatment of this, and he said the impression given was of a proper trial—men in robes or uniforms or wigs or what have you. None of the leading defendants [29 August 1945: Goering, Ribbentrop, Hess, Kaltenbrunner, Rosenberg, Frank, Bormann, Frick, Ley, Sauckel, Speer, Funk, Schacht, Papen, Krupp, Neurath, Schirach, Seyss-Inquart, Streicher, Keitel, Jodl, Raeder, Doenitz, Frisch. The Press approved ..] said they’d had anything to do with death camps; the most famous was Höss, kommandant of Auschwitz. However, in 1983 a book by Rupert Butler, ‘Legions of Death’, revealed that his confession was obtained after three days of torture. This is apart from other problems, such as the main document being typed in English.
      This is not new knowledge; some anti-revisionists state such things have only recently been discovered. But this seems to be a complete lie. I found three references: An interview with Judge Edward L. Van Roden, in ‘The Progressive’ February 1949/ Morris W Kolander in Pennsylvania Bar Assn Quarterly April 1947/ Manstein: His Campaigns and His Trial written by Field-Marshal Erich von Manstein’s defence lawyer R.T. Paget, K.C., M.P. (1951).
      Paget wrote: p. 109: This commission, consisting of Judges Simpson and Van Roden, and Colonel Laurenzen had reported among other things that of the 139 cases they had investigated 137 had had their testicles permanently destroyed by kicks received from the American War Crimes Investigation team.
      Names given: Lt.-Col. Burton F. Ellis (chief of the War Crimes Committee) and his assistants, Capt. Raphael Shumacker, Lt. Robert E. Byrne, Lt. William R. Perl, Mr. Morris Ellowitz, Mr. Harry Thon, and Mr. Kirschbaum. The legal adviser of the court was Col. A.H. Rosenfeld.
      It’s disquieting to find the Tusas book on Nuremberg mentions none of this; none of these people are indexed or appear anywhere in the book.
      Another irritation of the Tusas’ book is this sort of thing: the defendants’ list ‘named the wrong Krupp: Gustav. He was only a Krupp by marriage.. .. from 1943, by agreement with the Nazi government, Alfried had become the sole owner of the firm .. .. it was undoubtedly a slip of the pen—early lists of defendants had used Alfried’s name...’ [p 138 says Gustav Krupp was bedridden]
      pp 139-140: [The Tribunal was supposedly horrified at the suggestion Alfried Krupp should be substituted, for his father, ‘a practice unacceptable in any court.’
      By 144, this becomes ‘an old canard’] The Tusas’ claim seems nonsense, since the IMT were making up the rules as they went along; it seems absurd to suggest they would hesitate to correct a misprint.
      Yet another aspect is the fact, or allegation, that the American consisted mostly, at least 9 out of 10, Jews, mostly straight from Europe, not in any serious sense Americans at all. The Tusas give virtually no information about the American prosecution team.
      And another aspect is that Nuremberg was rigged: (A) the Prosecution controlled all documents; (B) no cross examination of witnesses, so any written statement could be submitted without ever being checked; (C) torture was applied to witnesses.
      Nuremberg procedures are little mentioned, for example in TV ‘documentaries’. At the time, this was possibly an aspect of wartime censorship; obviously there was intense censorship during the war, and probably the habits and the personnel continued. There were of course secret issues, such as German personnel, equipment and patents taken from Germany.

      3. Fake Documents and Photographs
On fake documents and pix, I’ll just list some fakes, a small set taken from a long list, claimed by David Irving, armed with his card index. ‘Several works hitherto accepted as ‘standard’ sources—Konrad Heiden, the Abwehr/OSS double agent Hans Bernd Gisevius, Erich Kordt, Hitler’s dismissed adjutant Fritz Wiedemann. Professor Carl-Jakob Burckhardt’s ‘diary’; while Hermann Rauschning’s Conversations with Hitler (1940), West German historian Professor Eberhard Jaecel—who carelessly included 78 forgeries in a serious volume of Hitler’s manuscripts, Fritz Thyssen’s ‘memoirs,’ I Paid Hitler (London, 1943). The anonymous ‘memoirs’ of the late Christa Schroeder, Hitler Privat (Dusseldorf, 1949) were penned by Albert Zoller, a French army liaison officer to the U.S. Seventh Army. Martin Bormann’s alleged notes on Hitler’s final bunker conversations, published with an introduction by Professor Hugh Trevor-Roper in 1961 as The Testament of Adolf Hitler are in my view quite spurious. Albert Speer’s Inside the Third Reich made him a personal fortune after the West Berlin firm of Propyläen published the book in 1969. They earned him wide respect for his disavowal of Hitler. But some critics were puzzled that the American edition differed substantially from the German original.. A courageous Berlin author, Matthias Schmidt, later published a book exposing the Speer legend and the ‘memoirs’; two different men claimed to possess the entire diaries of Vice Admiral Wilhelm Canaris, the legendary Abwehr chief hanged by Hitler in April 1945.... The genuine Kersten diaries which Professor Hugh Trevor-Roper saw in Sweden were never published, perhaps because of the political dynamite they contained on Sweden’s elite, including publisher Albert Bonnier, alleged to have offered Himmler the addresses of every Jew in Sweden in return for concessions in the event of a Nazi invasion. Per contra Irving alleges that the Israelis have authentic diaries of Himmler which they will not allow anyone else to examine.
David Irving Churchill bombing Germany
Youtube of David Irving discussing the bombing of Germany. (Recorded 2015; about 1 hour).
He doesn't mention another possible motive for bombing housing: it left factories alone. After the war claims were made on damage, ownership etc of factories and presumably other assets, such as railways, in Germany. [Inserted 5 Aug 2015 - RW]
      On photos, the source prominent on Internet is Udo Walendy. He gives examples of photos misattributed and with their backgrounds changed and so on. And film: for example a doctor in a film supposedly at a camp recognised himself at a scene of burning corpses after Dresden bombing.

I haven’t seen Walendy’s book. Of course faking propaganda isn’t new; Arthur Ponsonby’s 1928 Falsehood in Wartime included an account of a French firm making atrocity films, I think in the Bois de Boulogne, on sale to anyone.

      4. Population Figures
Now let’s look at population difficulties. This reveals a weakness of both sides. Reliable figures seem impossible to get. On the one hand, there was the chaos of war, with vast migrations and also changes of border. Also the Nazis had their own definition of Judaism which may not have been accepted by people so labelled. On the other hand, it remains true that states still retained bureaucracies and passport systems. Various revisionist estimates for numbers of Jewish victims have been made; I’ll just give three, one by Felderer who so far as I recall estimated 200,000, using UN figures for populations. Rassinier gives a figure of 900K - 1.2 M. ‘Did Six Million Really Die?’ by using encyclopedia figures gets an absolute maximum of 1.5 M.
      I’ll also note that the 6 million figure and the word ‘holocaust’ were used earlier; the first rather vague reference I found is 1919 (see below).
      Note also that US immigration figures aren’t very usable because the category ‘Hebrew’ was discontinued in November 1943, and ‘no official record has been keep since then’ at least according to a 1947 book on refugees by Maurice Davie.
      [Note added January 2015: British journalist and novelist Douglas Reed was the first prominent person to expose the fraudulent "Holocaust" propaganda narrative. The World Almanac of 1947 showed that the jewish race increased in population from the year 1937, not decreased is a statement by 'Jim Ferguson' who cites How Many Jews? online as the source. Far and Wide (1951) is also cited in the ihr website. Many Internet sites seem unable to understand the importance of exact citings.]
      So this is another surprise, my sixth : no proper examination of demography ever seem to have been made. Figures quoted by Martin Gilbert in this booklet [copy of glossy booklet, A History of the Holocaust ] are 1978 figures and seem based only on Nuremberg evidence; at any rate no sources are given.

      5. Gas Chambers
Gas chamber & translation problems; e.g. ‘gasungskeller’. this is complicated by the existence of precautions against gas warfare. There’s a large literature, including most famously a book 1989 called Technique and Operation of the Gas Chambers , Jean-Claude Pressac which I haven’t been able to get hold of, as it wasn’t in my sample university library (my hunting suggests very few revisionist books are held anywhere). I won’t attempt to summarise the dismal material on capacity of rooms, dangers of using cyanide, time taken to cremate bodies, in all of which the revisionist case seems to me strong. I’ll mention though my final surprise #7 : there appears to be not one authenticated photograph of a gas chamber designed for human beings.
      BWP [ British Way and Purpose , a British Army wartime collection of morale-boosting papers] has a brief mention which seems to confirm that extermination stories were taken very seriously. (Nov 1942-May 1944). This is often interpreted as deliberate evasion of responsibility.
      Later on the liberation of German camps was reported by e.g. Richard Dimbleby. Here’s a BBC book of the time, with a piece called ‘The Man from Belsen’. There’s mention of hard work and some violence, but the deaths in the camps seem to be caused by starvation as a result of bombing, chaos, blockades, typhus, although a BBC source couldn’t be expected to emphasise the results of their own bombing.
      Let me just note the changing claims made here; at first Dachau was regarded as the central extermination camp; then the focus moved out of Germany, mainly to Auschwitz, and it was conceded that no German camps were for extermination. The claims are now generally being scaled down, as you mayn’t be aware.
      I should also note the revisionist comment that in the early stages of the end of the war allegations of steaming to death, electrocution, and gas wagons were made.

I think this’ll have to do—I’ve already spoken too much. I would however like to make a point specifically for the left. Nobody seems to have noticed how useful the six million figure with or without evidence has proved for post-second world war establishments; whatever they do, millions killed here or there, they can always say they’re not as bad as the Nazis, we’re not as bad as Hitler. Hence my stories at the beginning.


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Fifteen Years 1997-2012 - Picture & Caption Reminder

Julia Middleton founded 'Common Purpose' in about 1988. It's a sort of updated Freemasons set-up to arrange secret meetings between officials. Concerns and exposures started to surface in about 2005. Middleton shared an office at the time of Blair with the Deputy Prime Minister, the semi-educated John Prescott whose son made money from housing immigrants. This organisation appears to be in difficulties.
Julia Middleton of Common Purpose
Rudi Giuliani was Mayor of New York from 1994-2001 and was of course involved with Silverstein and his cronies over the 9/11 event, which by now has been almost completely deciphered, apart from technical details over the demolitions. His main role was to hide the physical evidence, as opposed to the media control.
Mayor Giuliani - corrupt New York mayor
Levy, an accountant, ran the fund to raise money for Tony Blair's's 'Labour Party', in 1997, supposedly opposing the token opposition, the 'Conservatives', who were regarded as corrupt—though clearly this could not have been a significant objection. The total raised was large, though the official figures must be suspect. Some donors dodged notification by claiming to 'loan' money, though whether it was repaid seems doubtful. A typical 'Labour' trick with public money was to fund 'Trade Union Awareness' as a device to direct funds to the so-called 'Labour' Party.
Levy Lord Cashpoint
1997 Tony Blair elected Prime Minister. The 'Labour Party', as representing downtrodden workers, and true socialism as opposed to Jewish 'red' control,Tony Blair and reliant on their votes, was killed by Blair, an unsuccessful barrister spotted as a substitute for a leader. He (1) ran up huge paper-money debts, of course to Jews; (2) arranged huge pointless construction programmes; (3) used 'Private Finance Initiatives' to guarantee unworkable interest rates; (4) paid out for countless charities, 'think tanks', advisory groups, non-white race groups etc, all following Jewish policies; (5) of course corrupted the country with lies, for the second Iraq War; (6) used 'statutory instruments' to overturn planning decisions, give illegal immigrants money and housing, money for multiple 'wives' etc; (7) did his best to convert health services into profit-centres; (8) supported groups of thugs. Career civil servants, military, journalists and so on went along with all this.
1997-2001 'Jack Straw' (name presumably to pretend to be an English radical; his real Jewish name uncertain) was eased into politics via the NUS (National Union of Students) at the time of the Vietnam War. He appears to have followed the Jewish give-us-money-for-bombs policy. Like many Jews, a supporter of the mass murderer Stalin. He was a 'Labour' MP in a safe, working-class constituency, which he helped flood with immigrants. Jack Straw Jewish politician I'd guess despite huge incentives and advertising in Asia and Africa, not many immigrants trusted politicians. Hence the secret policy described by Andrew Neather. From 2001-2006 he was Foreign Secretary, positioned to push Blair into promoting Jewish war of the USA against Iraq.
David Irving libel trial Jan-Apr 2000 after a US publisher reneged on a contract after Jewish pressure. Must have had considerable effect around the world.
David Irving historian
2000 Andrew Neather wrote (in 2009) that the so-called Labour Party secretly decided to open Britain to third world immigration. Neather was a speech-writer at the time, and indirectly provided documents, and other names, in this conspiracy.
Andrew Neather speechwriter
2000 Michael Hoffman is one of the few genuine scholars of Judaism. His book on Judaism's Strange Gods is one landmark of his.
Michael Hoffman II scholar of Judaism
Silverstein of 9/11 fraud 2001 L Silverstein and 9/11. The story has by now been decrypted sufficiently to identify Silverstein and some cronies as the prime mover in 9/11. Insurance payouts—the excuse to raise premiums meant in effect the entire new build project was offloaded onto non-Jews. The other part of the plan was of course a middle east war to be fought by others.
2002-2005 'Denis MacShane' MP was made 'Minister for Europe'. A Labour friend of Israel, his real name is eastern-European Jew Mateusek. One of very many MPs who were/are semi-secretly Jews and with legal training. He helped draft NUJ instructions to prevent true race reporting. He supposedly represented Rotherham, a northern English constituency, and, among other things, imported Africans believed to have AIDS. This unspeakable piece of shit helped conceal rapes and assaults of underage white girls.
Rowan Williams was made Archbishop of Canterbury in 2003, selected from a shortlist by Blair possibly in exchange for supporting war against Iraq. Even by the standards typical of such people, he proved a nonentity unable or unwilling to start any new projects. The C of E is a worldwide joke. As with Roman Catholics, superstitious blacks are now their majority membership.
worthless Archbishop of Canterbury
Peter Goldsmith in 2003 was Attorney General (not for Scotland) and came up with the right answer—Iraq must be invaded. Jewish lawyers heading nominally national legal systems have been used to promote wars, back their own racist group, and damage host contries. Many Jews think this is in their interest.
Jewish lawyer supporting Iraq War
2003 Margaret Hodge (née Oppenheimer), immensely rich, from an Egyptian Oppenheimer steel company, was made Minister for Children despite having done nothing about paedophilia. It is emerging that Muslims and Jews want paedophilia, and the then Labour government did too.
Margaret Hodge/Oppenheimer
2004 Mark Thompson was nominally put in charge of the BBC. Funded by public money (except by immigrants—the leading cause of women in jail in Britain is non-payment for the BBC) its unrelieved mediocrity and lies in every field, contrary to its charter—science, religion, current affairs—leaves a huge question mark over the future of this discredited organisation.
BBC Mark Thompson - another propagandist liar
2005 Cressida Dick and a shooting of an innocent man. This was a couple of weeks after the false flag London bombings, which were never investigated. Her promotion, later, marks another part of the increased politicisation, and decreasing trust, in the police and the prosecution agencies which consistently act against whites.
Cressida Dick
2007 Statue of Margaret Thatcher put up in the Houses of Parliament. Thatcher's role Thatcher useful idiot for Jewswas partly to get public assets into Jewish ownership, partly to keep the truth hidden about Jewish control of the USSR, the 'Cold War', Communism, and nuclear weapons. Another misunderstood issue is trade unions: under Jewish ('red') control, trouble could be caused where needed to close down industries, ports etc. Thatcher's writings show she had no inkling. She was a perfect 'useful idiot'—intense, single-minded and ignorant.
2007 Pakistani 'Briton' made 'Baroness Warsi'. The USA is not the only country with 'positive discrimination', i.e. absurd anti-white promotions!
Warsi absurd Pakistani 'Baroness'
2008 Barry Soetero, inaugurated as USA president in 2009. Incredibly, he isn't even a US citizen. Obummer He is half Jewish, half Muslim—American blacks don't seem to know Jews and Muslims dealt in black slaves for centuries. Supersitious love for the absurd 'cult of the dead paedophile'. Promoted of course by Jews, surrounded by Jewish advisors, supporter of wars, illegal immigration, and de-industrialisation.
2009 Herman von Rompuy (here with sociology graduate Catherine Ashton) emerges like a beetle from the wainscot, blinking in the light. He was announced as the unelected 'First President of the European Council', a collection of failed politicians with simple-minded ideas.
Rompuy and Ashton of EU
2010 Johan Galtung A Scandinavian academic's figure of 96% of all media Jewish-owned was publicised.
Galtung on Jewish owned media
Big mistake in 2010 by the Jewish media: Barbara Lerner Spectre was filmed in Sweden boasting Jews would force immigration into European countries. Thanks to the ease of downloading of videos, the film extract could not be suppressed. The Swedish taxpayers are forced to pay this insane woman.
Barbara Lerner Spectre and Sweden
2010 Nick Griffin was elected a BNP MEP, as was Andrew Brons, a result made possible by the proportional representation system to the EU Parliament—like the USSR, no decisions are taken by this body. Note the Churchill imagery, intended of course as a vote-catcher; there are still many Britons who still think Churchill was a great leader, just as many simpler Americans think genocide in Vietnam was to their credit.
Nick Griffin MEP Churchill imagery
2011 The Leveson Inquiry into the press—not of course the serious implications, such as the deliberate non-reporting of rapes and murders of whites; or immigration; or paper money and fraud. A hugely expensive, money-making scheme for lawyers. Limited scope and powers of questioning make it worthless. Leveson Inquiry into British Press
Boris Johnson, a candidate in 2012 for London Mayor. The once family name of Osman reveals Muslim ancestry—an immigrant at the time of the Armenian massacres suggests he's descended from a mass killer who escaped with loot to Britain.
Boris Johnson (or Osman) - Armenian genocide link?
2012 London Mayoral elections, the Mayor being a recently-invented post. Ken Livingstone is an example of a useful idiot/anti-white racist, plucked from what ought to have been an insignificant career, to wreck London, taking orders weekly from his Jewish-controlled handlers. He supported the IRA, promoters of forced immigration into Ireland. He sided with big money, including farcical wastes of money such as the 'Millennium Dome' and the 'London Olympics'. He supports increased property and other taxes to pay for immigration, dumbed-down education, and helped London to become unsustainably violent and dangerous.
Ken Livingstone useful idiot
Miliband brothers, Cameron, Clegg lead all three mainstream political parties in Britain. All are for practical purposes Jews: Miliband brothers, north London Jews via Belgium and the USSR killing fields; Cameron from 'British' financiers; Clegg Dutch Jews. The photo shows the Pakistani-lookalike 'Ed' Miliband, his brother being David, who makes money in (e.g.) fraudulent wind farms, financed by people expecting 'Labour' to take its turns when Cameron is kicked out. All support Jewish paper money control, middle east wars, and violence against Britons. Jewish party leaders in Britain
2012 Neil Armstrong died—probably a relief to him after his lifetime of lies. He appears to have bombed women and children in Korea, but been too much of a coward to tell the truth—a true hero in the Jewish sense. Personally, I'm glad he's dead—he was a disgrace to the human race.
NASA fraud - Neil Armstrong
2012 Queen's diamond jubilee, the 60th anniversary of her accession. She always did what she was told, but probably had little idea what she was doing, judging from a tiny amount of non-sycophantic material. I wonder if she ever discusses the murder and rapes of the related Russian royalties by Jews in 1917, over cucumber sandwiches with the Rothschilds; I suppose it might inhibit discussion of money. She knighted Giuliani, Colin Powell & entertained Mugabe et al. The royal family is a joke, and, judging by other 20th century monarchies, a serious conflict will see them go.
Royal family
Rupert Murdoch Rupert Murdoch - mass media liarpresides over a media empire, though probably he needed Jewish fake money to get it for him. He has an unrelieved and possibly unequalled history in telling lies, starting with genocide in Vietnam, and extending for decades to Iraq and beyond. He supports the Jewish agenda of forcing immigration into all white countries. Some time deliberate mass deception may be made illegal, and such freaks will die out.
On Murdoch as a Jew liar, and Jews and 9/11, the best writer seems to be Christopher Bollyn whose work is often repeated and quoted online.
George Soros—real name something unpronounceable in Hungarian—made paper fortunes trading in Jewish paper money. For many years he has funded agencies to destroy white countries. He concentrates on eastern Europe. George Soros Hungarian Jew
Bradley SmithBradley Smith of CODOH working, with others, throughout the entire period outlined above, for truth about 'Holocaust' frauds
Big mistake
Dancing Israelis, pleased by 9/11, & "Documenting the event"—Israelis on Israeli TV admit by mistake that they knew about the 'event' before it happened

Big mistake— Israeli snipers recorded killing American soldiers in Iraq to keep the war boiling

RIP: John Smith 1994; Diana Spencer 1997; David Kelly 2003; Robin Cook 2005

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Other Essays and Notes on this website:—
David Irving [a few notes (early 1999) on his work. 8K]
    My account of his libel case. Includes all the court transcripts (unedited) and the judgment. (>200K)
    Selection of trial-related emails to/from me. (>200K) [Large revisionist website in Italian].

Paolo Poggi: 'Revisionisms' [20K. Translated from Italian. A European on 20th C ideologies].
RjH: Observations on the Second World War. [Author has links with Norway. His new website (war revisionism, not specifically holocaust) is Julius Streiker ].
    All these files are in English, not his native language.
The frisson of Faurisson:—
Les dirigeants des états musulmans devraient sortir de leur silence sur l'imposture de l'« Holocauste Ã‚» (en Français)

Same speech prepared for the Beirut Conference on Revisionism and Zionism, in English
    Eng. transl. of intro. to Robert Faurisson's Collected Essays 1974-1998
(150K - long!)
    Anne Frank's Diary (English) (40K)
    Five articles inc BBC, Leuchter (English) (38K)
Matt Giwer's reply to the "Never Again Foundation" who had a paid ad printed about 'Yom Hashoah'. Polish revisionism. This section is not yet ready.

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External Links.  [Click top right to close windows after reading]   (I) ANTI-REVISIONIST SITES—
ADL [Large site—which won't tell you how they go about their activities]
Almanac, Canadian Site [This site may have been discontinued. It had pieces e.g. on 'techniques of denial'.]
'The American-Israel Cooperative Enterprise' [Click to visit a typical subsite, entitled 'Holocaust Denial'. The 'Jewish Student Online Research Center' is on the same site.]
Einsatzgruppen [ 1997 site apparently by Ken Lewis deals with this (many documents, and many omitted, in English translations. Essentially presents the conventional view, with a selection of supposed documents on the 'final solution', and some pictures. NB for a time my link was incorrect and didn't work—apologies). And a Nizkor subsite on the topic, though the arrangement is unhelpful] . [Large site, but with interminable cross-links and rather feeble layout—it seems to have been designed by committee—which conceals much of its content: standard Hitler material, Hungary, 'the Bolshevik canard', and so on. Has a newish piece on the chemistry of cyanide which is shrill but unconvincing. Many photos. The guest book has some comical items. (I re-found this site on looking up a piece by Yale Eideken on Irving's trial, purporting to analyse Irving's legal mistakes. He compares me to Charlie McCarthy, someone I hadn't heard of—apparently a talking dummy—I'm not very familiar with working-class US entertainment. NB please, someone, correct his spelling 'Krystallnacht').] . [A new site, I think, specially funded, in Louisiana. Has family photos etc. on a small scale, but general lack of evidence; includes also photo of the supposed gas chamber at Auschwitz discredited with the help of the Irving trial. Claims to have documentary proof of gassing. (NB—the technical quality of this website is suspect—if it crashes, don't be surprised).]
Institute for Jewish Policy Research . [Based in UK. Legalistic, with an appendix summarising, or purportedly summarising, features of 'Holocaust Denial' legislation mostly in Europe. Some (not much) material on how Internet might be controlled. It has details of the failed Bill in the UK, including the wording 'other similar crimes against humanity committed by Nazi Germany', thus excluding any other mass murders. One of its publications is a rather dull and evasive piece on 'Holocaust denial' legislation in the UK, concluding unanimously that it would be undesirable. An appendix lists panel members, including the editor of Searchlight and Dr Georg Nolte. I was amused to see that 'foreword' was misspelt 'forward' by Anthony Julius, a lawyer.]
The Mad Revisionist [Anonymous site, though probably by Nizkor or some such site. Makes joke parallels, e.g. about the existence of the moon, implying the revisionist case is weak—without addressing the actual questions.]
Nizkor [Large site which is notoriously weak and evasive on actual documentation. A typical subsite is 'People' . Surprisingly few names, and surprisingly piffling treatment. Their Internet spamming technique though is competent. In late 1999 there was talk of it being sold at a high price; I don't know if anything came of this]
Harry Mazal OBE's site [Under development. At present, almost entirely Nuremberg trial, plus Dachau gas chambers. Has an out-of-date feel, as, it seems, nobody else accepts Dachau gas chambers any more, and there's widespread awareness of the unreliability of Nuremberg. (For non-Britons, OBE means 'Order of the British Empire').]
Public Eye , ['sponsored by Political Research Associates'. Pro-Nizkor. One fears that some of these organisations are full of bogus reformers. The link was to a piece on 'antisemitism' which seems not to work; try this link , their home page. Topics include irrational Jewish conspiracy theories, hate crimes, David Icke etc.]
The Skeptic [Feb 1994 edn. Linked to F Miele '.. test case for the skeptical ethic..' and B Siano's review of D. Lipstadt's 'Denying the Holocaust'. (Most of their articles aren't on Internet). Skeptic has several loosely-associated people—Shermer, Carroll, Randi. In my view their work is rather feeble, selecting only trivial targets, which no doubt explains why they're tolerated—or ignored.]
Simon Wiesenthal Center , Los Angeles. [Supposed pursuit of war criminals (unless of course they're US, Israeli, ...)   The true record in fact is rather different from what I presume remains the common perception. Immense financial resources. Michael A. Hoffman II wrote: 'The Wiesenthal Center is not a "human rights group" as the New York Times claims. The abridgment of rights of free speech and expression curtails human rights. The Wiesenthal organization is a religious Zionist organization and should be described as such..']
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External Links.  [Click top right to close windows after reading]     (II) REVISIONIST SITES:—
Aaargh [French site, closed down late 2000; now back at a different URL. l'Association des Anciens Amateurs de Récits de Guerre et d'Holocauste. Large, with a slightly macaronic appearance. It has much of Rassinier (in English). New section considers Goldhagen. Something on Kevin Macdonald. Also Faurisson archival material, e.g. 'Adventure..' and Garaudy/Pierre. It has a probably-correct debunking of Treblinka by the use of ground-penetrating radar. It has New Zealand military historian/theoretician Joel Hayward's dissertation on Holocaust Revisionism—or, so far at least, some of it.
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Adelaide Institute [Fredrick Töben's site in Australia. Newsletter etc. Unflattering accounts of Australian university history teaching. Töben was arrested in Germany in April 1999; accounts of this are on his site. NB: layout is poor with e.g. no indication of contents of his numerous newsletters.]
Austin J. App [was, or is, an early revisionist. 'A Straight Look at the Third Reich' written at the time of Nixon mainly looks at postwar measures against Germans. This site ('First Amendment Exercise Machine') also has The Six Million Swindle , and Power and Propaganda in American Politics and Foreign Affairs . VHO at one time had App's Holocaust.. in Perspective' (1980), but seem to have removed all App material. App seems also to have written Ravishing the Conquered Women of Europe ]
Air photo interpretation site by John Ball [with audio-visual aids, detailed coloured maps, photos, very elaborately done. Detailed list of camps from Auschwitz to Treblinka; also such events (or non-events) as Babi Yar. Important revisionist source for the German eastern front: the thrust is that many claimed massacres are frauds (or perpetrated by the Soviet Union), and that this is provable by forensic methods including air photos. Some technical material. Also in Swedish, German]
Barnes Review in memory of Harry Elmer Barnes. [(There's also a different small site called the 'memory hole', and perhaps others, too.) WW2 revisionist. Apparently this is Willis Carto's site. It has back-number information. The layout of this site is not (or was not) helpful—you couldn't tell what's there without clicking.]
Blacks and Jews ( has vanished. However this site, not an official Black Muslim US site, Advertises the books The Secret Relationship Between Blacks and Jews ; Prof Tony Martin (Wellesley College) and his book The Jewish Onslaught ; and actual quotations from Louis Farrakhan, contrasted with misrepresentations of him. Also material on Spielberg's film Amistrad . Not holocaust revisionist, except in the sense that it shifts the ground by referring only to the black slavery holocaust. Estimates here are of the order of 100 million deaths—which sounds to me like an exaggeration.]
Joaquin Bochaca's El Mito de los Seis Millones [Spanish revisionist book, apparently first published in 1979, possibly in South America. The Internet version is in two parts. The bibliography and endnotes (with rather numerous scanner and other errors) show the sources are almost entirely American, British, French, and German, though there are Spanish notes added by 'N. del A.' The Internet version appears to be unedited; the latest dated note is 1977, or 1978 if you count one Spanish article.
    Bochaca's book appears to be a compilation from App, Barnes, Butz, and others—for example, the section 'LOS DERECHOS DE LA ARITMETICA' seems based largely on Did Six Million Really Die? . Since Bochaca had also translated works from French, Italian, and English, I infer he is or was primarily a translator and compiler. Given the date, unsurprisingly there's no mention of Zündel. I'm told there is no material in this book relevant to the Spanish Civil War, Catholicism, Opus Dei, and South America.]
Arthur Butz [Modest site with ad for his book. He doesn't want his book available on Internet. And several of his articles: This displays an index; select vk.html and detect.html for Butz on gas cellars in Auschwitz/Birkenau]
CODOH ['Committee for Open Debate on the Holocaust'. Bradley R. Smith's site, with Quixotic imagery and biog info. Rearranged 2000; includes a top 10 (Click What's new, What's hot), all his 1990s campus promotion ads (easier to find in text-only mode), and a Reader Commentary/BBS section with civility requested (if they get it working). CODOH offered $250,000 to anyone arranging a prime time TV debate of ADL with CODOH. Huge list of authors—David Irving, Germar Rudolf, Friedrich Berg, Peter Hayes, Carlos W Porter, Russ Granata, Mark Weber. Stäglich: Auschwitz: a Judge Looks at the Evidence . Has Faurisson's 'Witnesses to the gas chambers of Auschwitz' with account of first (1985) Zündel trial. Their mag The Revisionist is now partly online; if they feel inclined to scan and do OCR, presumably more will follow. Also has list of other links, site and web searchers. NB Bradley F Smith also writes or wrote on the Second World War, but is a different Bradley Smith]
CRTH [Campaign for Radical Truth in History. Michael A Hoffman II's site. Maltreatment of whites, crits of modern news media, notably failure to comment on people like Armand Hammer, in addition to Revisionism. He's a Catholic ex-journalist, sacked I think for his views, after a campaign by 'a Jewish doctor'. Reputedly with about ten kids. (NB Othodox Judaism also opposes contraception, though virtually no publicity is given to this fact). Section on Talmud based on I B Pranaitis, but Hoffman has been reading the Talmud and is about to publish, or has published, better-researched material. Mail-order sales]
Elias Davidsson Dark Web pages of Zionism Iceland-based revisionist site [Iceland-based site which is larger than first appears. Selected articles, book reviews and extracts, including a 'Holocaust' section]
Einsatzgruppen [Revisionist subsites include: Rassinier Chs 13 & 14 of 'Drama of the European Jews' (Ohlendorf figures prominently), 'The Case of the Einsatzgruppen' from 'Did Six Million..?', Garaudy on 'Founding Myths of Zionism' Part 2 ]
Norman Finkelstein [Promoting his book The Holocaust Industry . Not strictly revisionist—Finkelstein accepts such things as gas chambers and exceptional treatment of the Jews. Published (at least in the UK) by Verso Books, which was founded by Dr Robin Blackburn, supposedly a left-winger. The book is not strictly revisionist—its main interest is facts and figures relating to the moneys obtained, and their destinations—generally within close control of Jews with no connection to WW2, not to its generally-assumed recipients. Refers to Butz as a nonentity (so what is Finkelstein?) An interesting halfway stage to revisionism, possibly intended as a warning to stop, to help damp down criticisms of 'Jews', in case these should become stronger. Widely ignored and unreviewed in the USA so far—see David Irving's site for frequently-updated reports on this US censorship. There is an Internet online version, with some scanner errors, though I would guess without copyright permission, which therefore I feel unable to link to.]
Giwer's World [Matt Giwer's site, with WW2 section, with some material from memories of the time supplemented by research: Churchill, Roosevelt, Poland being less innocent than usually thought, Belgium, 'gas chambers' and Nuremberg, dubious photos, and many other things, including US Civil War revisionism. Some spelling errors. Giwer said plaintively his site hasn't yet been banned—if you run censorware, perhaps you could put him out of his misery?]
GOAL ['God Affirmed Order in Love'. Looking again, I find it's 'God's Order Affirmed in Love' and not 'GAOL', as I'd thought. Christian anti-Jewish site with some US style things, e.g. opposed to interest on money. Survivor is an anti-Holocaust allegory]
Russ Granata's site [Like VHO, an international site, with articles in German and French . An interesting subsite is by Jürgen Graf , a Swiss revisionist who apparently was forced to move to Iran in about December 2000. Carlo Mattogno's work is another interesting subsite.]
Historical Review Press ['The revisionist publisher of the world'. Large site, in England; at least 40Mb, all put together with Microsoft Front Page. Includes Did Six Million Really Die? , a 1938 book on Jewish Ritual Murder, several translations of Mein Kampf , Rosenberg's The Myth of the 20th Century in English (including the phrase 'final solution'—nothing to do with Jews), Henry Ford's The International Jew , what seems to be the full version of Leuchter's Report , and Stoddard's The Rising Tide of Color , dated 1922, the first whites-v-the-rest book known to me. Much rather scrappy material (including phoney race crime statistics). Despite the implied claim in the title, this site is mostly anti-Jewish and has little general historical revision material. Not for my taste an attractive site]
Greg Raven's IHR ['Institute for Historical Review'. Seems to have reappeared after moves through several sites. Started in 1980 I think, somewhat pre-Internet with a printed journal, books, and leaflets. Most of their articles have been scanned and uploaded. Site searcher; about 400 files. A film with the actor who insists he isn't Spock featured some IHR booklets.
    Journal of Historical Review back numbers are on the VHO website.
    Beirut 2001. Conference arranged by a Swiss group, Verité et Justice, in Lebanon, March 31-April 3rd 2001. I don't know whether this group has much substantial existence. At any rate, I couldn't find a website. Jürgen Graf is its head (I'm told) and presumably operates from Iran.—NEW: 23 March 2001: a report said: ‘"This conference will not be held in Beirut," Prime Minister Rafik Hariri..’ (after a cabinet meeting!) Edward Said appears to have signed a letter 'condemning' the meeting—though there's some doubt as he claimed afterwards he never saw the text.
    [Robert Faurisson's talk, prepared for the banned conference, is available on my site, in two languages. Click for
English or Français ]
    Their May 2000 online conference (in fact, more a set of monologues) appears to have had, disappointingly, only a few thousand hits. However, I recommend it as a chance to hear Faurisson (interesting on the philosophy of scientific method: he suggests that translating into a foreign language forces understanding of texts; and insists on evidence—photos of gas chambers, in his case), and Arthur Butz (who was for a time written-up charmingly as 'Author Butz'), with Germar Rudolf, Senator McCloskey (Korea, Jews and the Liberty , the ADL and behind-the-scenes operations), and a number of others. In real audio format—save on disk for reference.]
David Irving's Focal Point Press site [Massive site (something like 100 Mb) designed, scanned and programmed personally by Irving. Shows signs of its start as an outlet for his books; increasingly devoted to his appeal against the outcome of his lawsuit against Viking/Penguin and Deborah Lipstadt. Large numbers of press 'cuttings' downloaded from newspapers' own sites, on the Second World War, and his legal case, its aftermath, and Jewish-related matters.
    Free downloads of many of his books are on his site, on the theory that printed book sales will ultimately be increased: they have better illustrations and are more pleasant to read and handle. (My account of the trial, Irving v Lipstadt , includes a list of his books. Incidentally, not one of his titles is legally in print in any language in any country in the world).
Irving's appeal will be heard at the English Court of Appeal; it is directed to begin on June 11th 2001 before Lord Justice Pill, and appears to be scheduled for five days in total. This will be open the public (I checked carefully). '.. it will become the subject of the most intense media glare. TV cameras, transmitters, teams, photographers, will line up .. outside the Law Courts.' Currently Irving is in the USA; Click here to see his personal fundraising site., and are registered in Cleveland, Ohio, and link to the Institute for Historical Review, presumably with Irving's permission.]
Radio Islam [The (slow-loading) English section of this multi-language site. 'Radio' refers only to the broadcasting-over-Internet aspect; I don't think there's a radio station. Essentially Palestinian, and rather anti-American. Interesting list of Jews in US government. Sections on the Holocaust. This is run by or on behalf of Ahmed Rami, who was briefly mentioned, with of course no detail, near the end of the Irving libel trial. I don't think there are any Arabic sites; very likely they would be crushed]
Italy. Associazione per il Revisionismo Storico is a new Italian site.
Fred Leuchter's site [linked from David Irving's. When I tried it, it was unobtainable. An interesting section is Leuchter on Jean-Claude Pressac (the fourth Leuchter report) which however is arranged in many small fragments]
Peter Myers' (Australian) site has interesting things to say on Zionism, Christianity and religions generally, Japan, the Protocols of Zion (which Myers argues are genuine), Israel, the 'Jewish campaign to demolish the Dome of the Rock', and free trade/one world. Dislikes William Pierce. Not I think strictly a holocaust or Second World War revisionist.
National Vanguard Free Speech subsite, largely by Dr William Pierce. [A 'monthly illustrated newsletter.. America's only uncensored patriotic [i.e. supposedly patriotic of USA] radio program..'. Has some reprint material, including (scroll down to Vol I, No. 6) Benjamin Freedman on Jews in Germany before WW2 (which I've also put onto my site). The layout isn't very good, in my opinion; article titles are given, without summary of contents. I thought there was the piece I referred to, on Churchill, in here somewhere, but there isn't. In June 2000, there were 240 articles here.]
Konstantinos 'Kosta' Plevris K Plevris Greek revisionist [Greek legal man, who has written long works on Jews and Europe and Greece. The above link is an interview - biographical & bibliographical information. ADDED MAR 2013.
The original, longer, interview in English is here, in the Barnes Review] K Plevris Greek revisionist
Carlos W. Porter [Translator. Intends to reproduce the Nuremberg documents in scanned-in form, i.e. as images, not in type or print. Mainly seems to intend focussing on Soviet or Russian frauds and fakes—nothing seems planned on Poland, despite its importance. Newish. NB Site URL changed mid-April 2000]
Qué nos ocultan [Spanish site with up-to-the-minute Spanish language material, mostly, as far as I know, on the Holohoax. ADDED AUG 2015] [Links to the Institute for Historical Review, which presumably bought this and related domain names. Includes in its video archives a downloadable video of David Cole talkin with Piper at Auschwitz. 20 Mb—a bit long!]
Ukrainian Archive seems to have been removed; I can't find another URL address where it may have been moved to.
[Not archives in a strict sense; items related, some tenuously, to Ukraine, the Soviet Union, and the Second World War. Demjanjuk and his trial, perceptions of Ukrainians—including Life mag photo lie, Jews in Ukraine, Einsatzgruppen... I think this site is the one with a diary of a girl at Stalingrad, in Anne Frank style. Also huge frauds—billions of dollars—mostly or entirely by Jews.]
Usenet [The link is to Deja Com. Search for people locked in virtual combat with other disembodied voices. Alt.revisionism is interestingly controversial, with expressions like holohoax, hollowcost, holocau$t, holylocust. ASMarques was a frequent contributor, but (Jan 2000) says he no longer participates. Slade Farney is another interesting contributor.
  Bulletin Boards on individual sites —John Ball, and CODOH, have these—may have interesting specialised debates, but are of course smaller scale.]
Dissecting the Holocaust V.H.O. [What I take to be a Flemish Belgian site, Vrij Historisch Onderzoek, = Free Historical Enquiry. More than a thousand authors, many of them German or French. Some connection with Germar Rudolf—in fact, I think it's his site. Says it has 4,500 files searchable with its new site searcher. In mid-Feb 450 or so photos were put up relating to the Irving trial/ Auschwitz/Birkenau. The layout unfortunately isn't very easy to get to grips with; as a result this site is probably underrated. Has extract from Udo Walendy's fake photo evidence, plus e.g. IHR articles, Pearl Harbor, Anne Frank, French Revolution, Japan, Morgenthau, reviews of Arno Mayer, Christianity, Australia, Canada, Islam, Hollywood, Arthur Butz, Faurisson, unpublished letters e.g. to Christopher Hitchens, etc etc. Mail order sales.
    Dissecting the Holocaust edited under a pseudonym by G Rudolf, is an anthology of I think 18 authors including Ball, Berg, Faurisson, Walendy and Mark Weber, planned for Autumn 2000. It won't be published by Penguin! The subtitle, The Growing Critique of ' Truth' and Memory is evidently aimed against Deborah Lipstadt's book.]
Wannsee [This is a revisionist article, 'Anatomy of a Fabrication' by J P Ney]
Be Wise ['Be wise as serpents' to the vast right wing conspiracy. I hope their history is better than their natural history. Christian-based site. Confusing layout; seems to be little original work]
Zündelsite [Was based in Canada. One of the first, if not the first, revisionist site; of considerable importance in revisionism and in Internet history. Has Faurisson's How Many Deaths at Auschwitz? (incredible shrinking holocaust ©MHII). And the full text of 'Did Six Million Really Die?' (part 2 has an overview of the figures). Leuchter Report, Rudolf Report. Also court transcripts of 2nd trial of Zündel, though not the first. These transcripts were hard to find—this was a sprawling and not very well-designed site—but recently the layout has been improved. Sends e-mails, edited by Ingrid Rimland, to subscribers. Rimland secretly married Zündel in early 2000]

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